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FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN #4471101
07/26/17 02:51 PM
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This filter was off my real fathers friends E-250 van. I believe it's a 2012 model also.

Oil was Maxlife blend 5w30 also. Put another one of these filters on as dad has few of them in his stash with some Maxlife synthetic 5w30. Van has if I saw odometer correct; 223,559 miles on it. Enjoy the photos and filter looks well made wink
















09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4471127
07/26/17 03:25 PM
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Who makes that one? Wix?


2012 Hyundai Sonata GLS 6MT 2.4GDI, ProDS 10w30, XG9688 filter, 2018 Mitsubishi Outlander SEL 2.4 CVT, Factory fill still.
Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: Brons2] #4471130
07/26/17 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted By: Brons2
Who makes that one? Wix?


I'm guessing same folks that make Premium guard, Parts Plus and ecoguard, etc


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4471143
07/26/17 03:49 PM
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Ontario Canada
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Federated's were usually made by Hastings...but this one has no louvers so...IDK

Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: Canadastang] #4471157
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Originally Posted By: Canadastang
Federated's were usually made by Hastings...but this one has no louvers so...IDK


I'm surprised this one has silicone ADBV


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4471187
07/26/17 04:49 PM
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Katy, Republic of Texas
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I thought I read these were now made in China filters? Not Wix, Champ, Puro or Fram though.
It is a different looking spring, not sure I have seen one like that.

Looks to be well made though, and I agree, surprising to find a silicone ADV.


1994 Honda VT1100: Peak 15w-40/PSL/2500 mile OCI
2002 Ford F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard Syn/1yr OCI
2012 Scion xB: QSUD 0w-20/CQ Blue/5k OCI

Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: blupupher] #4471193
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Originally Posted By: blupupher
I thought I read these were now made in China filters? Not Wix, Champ, Puro or Fram though.
It is a different looking spring, not sure I have seen one like that.

Looks to be well made though, and I agree, surprising to find a silicone ADV.


7th pic down I tried to get decent pic of cross reference and "country of manufacturer"


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: Canadastang] #4471221
07/26/17 05:17 PM
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Do you like these more than you liked the previous Hastings-made versions?

Originally Posted By: Canadastang
Federated's were usually made by Hastings...but this one has no louvers so...IDK


They used to be, but Hastings stopped doing private-label filters, according to this post from last year. The old Hastings-made Federated filters were the same as Casite, a little cheaper than actual Hastings-branded filters, with a little less media.

But now it appears they're Chinese, unfortunately.

Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4471242
07/26/17 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: car51
Originally Posted By: blupupher
I thought I read these were now made in China filters? Not Wix, Champ, Puro or Fram though.
It is a different looking spring, not sure I have seen one like that.

Looks to be well made though, and I agree, surprising to find a silicone ADV.


7th pic down I tried to get decent pic of cross reference and "country of manufacturer"
duh

Did not see it.
At least I have learned enough to spot them now.


1994 Honda VT1100: Peak 15w-40/PSL/2500 mile OCI
2002 Ford F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard Syn/1yr OCI
2012 Scion xB: QSUD 0w-20/CQ Blue/5k OCI

Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4471250
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It's ok smile


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4471265
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They look REALLY well-made,

but I wish there was a way to find out how efficient the media is.


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(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4471276
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Me too


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4472256
07/27/17 06:25 PM
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Nice looking filter and a lot of miles for a 2012.


2007 Ford Fusion 232,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 55K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and MC LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: tig1] #4472264
07/27/17 06:32 PM
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Katy, Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted By: tig1
Nice looking filter and a lot of miles for a 2012.

No joke. That 2012 van puts more miles in a year than I have put on my 2012 Scion in 4.5 years.


1994 Honda VT1100: Peak 15w-40/PSL/2500 mile OCI
2002 Ford F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard Syn/1yr OCI
2012 Scion xB: QSUD 0w-20/CQ Blue/5k OCI

Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4472266
07/27/17 06:34 PM
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Yeah, he does quite a bit of traveling and jobs smile


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PP 5w30 and TG 4967
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