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#4471101 - 07/26/17 02:51 PM FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN
car51 Offline


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This filter was off my real fathers friends E-250 van. I believe it's a 2012 model also.

Oil was Maxlife blend 5w30 also. Put another one of these filters on as dad has few of them in his stash with some Maxlife synthetic 5w30. Van has if I saw odometer correct; 223,559 miles on it. Enjoy the photos and filter looks well made wink














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#4471127 - 07/26/17 03:25 PM Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: car51]
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Who makes that one? Wix?
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#4471130 - 07/26/17 03:29 PM Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: Brons2]
car51 Offline


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Originally Posted By: Brons2
Who makes that one? Wix?


I'm guessing same folks that make Premium guard, Parts Plus and ecoguard, etc
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#4471143 - 07/26/17 03:49 PM Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: car51]
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Federated's were usually made by Hastings...but this one has no louvers so...IDK

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#4471157 - 07/26/17 04:15 PM Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: Canadastang]
car51 Offline


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Originally Posted By: Canadastang
Federated's were usually made by Hastings...but this one has no louvers so...IDK


I'm surprised this one has silicone ADBV
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#4471187 - 07/26/17 04:49 PM Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: car51]
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I thought I read these were now made in China filters? Not Wix, Champ, Puro or Fram though.
It is a different looking spring, not sure I have seen one like that.

Looks to be well made though, and I agree, surprising to find a silicone ADV.
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#4471193 - 07/26/17 04:51 PM Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: blupupher]
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Originally Posted By: blupupher
I thought I read these were now made in China filters? Not Wix, Champ, Puro or Fram though.
It is a different looking spring, not sure I have seen one like that.

Looks to be well made though, and I agree, surprising to find a silicone ADV.


7th pic down I tried to get decent pic of cross reference and "country of manufacturer"
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#4471221 - 07/26/17 05:17 PM Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: Canadastang]
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Do you like these more than you liked the previous Hastings-made versions?

Originally Posted By: Canadastang
Federated's were usually made by Hastings...but this one has no louvers so...IDK


They used to be, but Hastings stopped doing private-label filters, according to this post from last year. The old Hastings-made Federated filters were the same as Casite, a little cheaper than actual Hastings-branded filters, with a little less media.

But now it appears they're Chinese, unfortunately.

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#4471242 - 07/26/17 05:48 PM Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: car51]
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Originally Posted By: car51
Originally Posted By: blupupher
I thought I read these were now made in China filters? Not Wix, Champ, Puro or Fram though.
It is a different looking spring, not sure I have seen one like that.

Looks to be well made though, and I agree, surprising to find a silicone ADV.


7th pic down I tried to get decent pic of cross reference and "country of manufacturer"
duh

Did not see it.
At least I have learned enough to spot them now.
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#4471250 - 07/26/17 05:54 PM Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: car51]
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It's ok smile
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#4471265 - 07/26/17 06:11 PM Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: car51]
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They look REALLY well-made,

but I wish there was a way to find out how efficient the media is.
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#4471276 - 07/26/17 06:22 PM Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: car51]
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Me too
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#4472256 - 07/27/17 06:25 PM Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: car51]
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Nice looking filter and a lot of miles for a 2012.
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#4472264 - 07/27/17 06:32 PM Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: tig1]
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Originally Posted By: tig1
Nice looking filter and a lot of miles for a 2012.

No joke. That 2012 van puts more miles in a year than I have put on my 2012 Scion in 4.5 years.
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#4472266 - 07/27/17 06:34 PM Re: FEDERATED PG4651F, 4,300 miles CUT OPEN [Re: car51]
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Yeah, he does quite a bit of traveling and jobs smile
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