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#3255445 - 01/21/14 06:20 PM Mitchell labor guide
Thax Offline


Registered: 11/07/10
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Loc: VA
My sisters 02 Liberty 3.7L started acting up , threw a CEL. I live over 200 miles away so fixing whatever it was wasnt possible . I had her check the codes via the key method and came up with a P0303 . I suspected a bad coil , so sent her to my parents mechanic. I have never had a problem with him and thought he was fair and honest. I was shocked when she calls me to say the bill was $375 to replace a single coil , and change the plugs. I dont have access to my labor guides but this seems pretty steep. Changing plugs and a coil on a 3.7L is a breeze . Area labor rate is around 100-120 per hour. I hate to think of my little sister being taken advantage of . If anybody could give me the labor times for this , would greatly appreciate it. Thanks BITOG!!
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#3255454 - 01/21/14 06:28 PM Re: Mitchell labor guide [Re: Thax]
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Registered: 04/07/11
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I don't have experience with that engine but I've changed coils on my F150 and it takes about 5 minutes for one, and about another hour for spark plugs. If you figure on the high end at $120 for labor and a coil ($32 at Autozone) and say $3 each for plugs, you're still only at around $170. They are defiantly pulling extra money from somewhere, where I dont know. I hate to say it, but I think she might have gotten taken a little. frown


Edited by renegade_987 (01/21/14 06:29 PM)
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#3255472 - 01/21/14 06:36 PM Re: Mitchell labor guide [Re: Thax]
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Registered: 10/09/11
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Loc: USA
They wont charge AZ prices for a coil.They will charge full "List" price.

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#3255474 - 01/21/14 06:37 PM Re: Mitchell labor guide [Re: renegade_987]
Thax Offline


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Im also assuming a $120 diagnostic fee as well . Parts cost for him were most likely at $20 for the coil and $1.70 per plug. Dont see where this $375 is coming from??
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#3255479 - 01/21/14 06:39 PM Re: Mitchell labor guide [Re: Thax]
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Registered: 07/14/09
Posts: 1640
Loc: SF Bay Area
the labor guide I'm looking at isn't mitchell, it's from Wrenchhead.

V6 One,Coil on Plug Includes: Test coil. C 0.50
V6 All,Coil on Plug Includes: Test coil. C 0.90
SPARK PLUGS- REMOVE & REPLACE
Add V6 C 1.10


so the skill level goes A to C, C being more difficult.

above is to R&R coil pack AND test for 1 and for all.
then adding 1.1 hours if you swap 6 plugs as well.
I'll bet the mechanic charged 2 hours total time, and maybe a diagnostic fee for the CEL light.
then you have parts, 6 plugs and 1 coil pack.
I'd say $55 for the coil pack and $5 each for the plugs (using MFGR list pricing).
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#3255484 - 01/21/14 06:42 PM Re: Mitchell labor guide [Re: NHGUY]
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Originally Posted By: NHGUY
They wont charge AZ prices for a coil.They will charge full "List" price.


Oh right.....
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#3255502 - 01/21/14 06:55 PM Re: Mitchell labor guide [Re: Thax]
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Registered: 09/19/08
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Loc: Pennsylvania
Using Repair Pal to give me an estimate for both in my area, it should cost no more than $250-$270.

http://repairpal.com/
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#3255520 - 01/21/14 07:04 PM Re: Mitchell labor guide [Re: Thax]
Rand Offline


Registered: 08/20/03
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thats the one with the COP(s) right?

6 per car?

aftermarket price is 20-44$

so probably 65$ retail + 6plugs at 5-10$ if double platinum and 2 hours labor.

shop fee, tax
a diagnostic fee but possibly that's including in the labor to diagnose a bad COP.

Thats the kind of repair I do.

look up codes with 10$ bluetooth obdII reader.. google on internet. buy parts boom. save 250$
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#3255749 - 01/21/14 10:08 PM Re: Mitchell labor guide [Re: Thax]
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Registered: 10/05/11
Posts: 397
Loc: McLean, Va.
I checked on the parts costs from Carquest and LIST on the coil is $38.87, OE NGK plugs LIST $5.00 each and we would have charged two hours total with diagnostic and parts instahled with test drive of 3 miles min. so I figure with tax and shop charge tops of rounding out $285.00 would be normal. The coil is fairly cheap as are the plugs. The only change would be if they upgraded the plugs but that should add tops of about 5 to 6 per plug if they really did do that.


Edited by vssjim (01/21/14 10:09 PM)

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#3255753 - 01/21/14 10:14 PM Re: Mitchell labor guide [Re: Thax]
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Registered: 09/23/06
Posts: 2279
Loc: Up here in the NorthWest
Give him a call and ask for a breakdown of the bill?
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#3256086 - 01/22/14 10:20 AM Re: Mitchell labor guide [Re: Thax]
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Registered: 08/11/05
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Originally Posted By: Thax
My sisters 02 Liberty 3.7L started acting up , threw a CEL. I live over 200 miles away so fixing whatever it was wasnt possible . I had her check the codes via the key method and came up with a P0303 . I suspected a bad coil , so sent her to my parents mechanic. I have never had a problem with him and thought he was fair and honest. I was shocked when she calls me to say the bill was $375 to replace a single coil , and change the plugs. I dont have access to my labor guides but this seems pretty steep. Changing plugs and a coil on a 3.7L is a breeze . Area labor rate is around 100-120 per hour. I hate to think of my little sister being taken advantage of . If anybody could give me the labor times for this , would greatly appreciate it. Thanks BITOG!!


I would call the mechanic yourself if you want to get that involved.
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#3256526 - 01/22/14 05:07 PM Re: Mitchell labor guide [Re: vssjim]
Thax Offline


Registered: 11/07/10
Posts: 675
Loc: VA
Originally Posted By: vssjim
I checked on the parts costs from Carquest and LIST on the coil is $38.87, OE NGK plugs LIST $5.00 each and we would have charged two hours total with diagnostic and parts instahled with test drive of 3 miles min. so I figure with tax and shop charge tops of rounding out $285.00 would be normal. The coil is fairly cheap as are the plugs. The only change would be if they upgraded the plugs but that should add tops of about 5 to 6 per plug if they really did do that.

Thanks she is in Fairfax so im upset you being in Mclean would charge $285 , if your at a shop in the area PM and ill send you my folks biz
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