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#3185462 - 11/12/13 06:44 AM Suggestions for a '13 Civic Si
climhazzard Offline


Registered: 02/05/11
Posts: 32
Loc: Virginia
I hate to create one of these threads, but I did search and there's not much info regarding the 2012+ Civic Si smile. I just traded my GTI in over the weekend, since I was missing..having some sort of reliability. Anyway, spent some time searching and there's quite a bit of discussion regarding 0W20 oils, but none I could find that were focussed on the K24Z7, which is the "performance oriented" K24 in the Civic Si.

Toyota oils seem well thought of, and I'm not quite clear on if the new Conoco Phillips made Honda Synthetic is as good as the prior version made by Idemitsu. The Honda stuff seems expensive (around $9/qt shipped) so if Pennzoil Platinum or Mobile 1 AFE are just as good, I'm happy to go with those.

I live in Virginia so we see all sorts of weather, and I plan on changing the oil out every ~5k, unless the maintenance minder tells me to do so sooner. Your thoughts are most appreciated!

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#3185479 - 11/12/13 07:11 AM Re: Suggestions for a '13 Civic Si [Re: climhazzard]
Char Baby Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 8793
Loc: Western NY
I've thrown any oil that met the spec in my Honda's. Most other engines too! They're not picky though with some trial & error, you will find the one that you and the engine like in particular.
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#3185481 - 11/12/13 07:14 AM Re: Suggestions for a '13 Civic Si [Re: climhazzard]
tc1446 Offline


Registered: 12/10/10
Posts: 777
Loc: Lexington, NC
Don't think you can go wrong with either PP or M1 and they're readily avail anywhere, often on sale. I've used M1 and filters regularly in my Altima for 10K each change, but just for heck of it I put PP and a Fram Ultra in the Accord (same basic engine as yours?)the other day on the 10K mark. I had previously changed the oil at 5K, being of the old school and wanting to get things "cleaned out", but will now run the PP 10K unless the MM tells me otherwise. FYI, the MM read 60% just before the last change.

I've got a bunch of PU in 5W-20 when Walmart had it on clearance and will prob use that next summer. I'm not hung up on the 0W..thing.
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#3185528 - 11/12/13 08:19 AM Re: Suggestions for a '13 Civic Si [Re: climhazzard]
gregk24 Offline


Registered: 04/13/13
Posts: 5045
Loc: FL, USA
PP, TGMO, M1, all good choices.
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#3185532 - 11/12/13 08:26 AM Re: Suggestions for a '13 Civic Si [Re: climhazzard]
Durango Offline


Registered: 02/15/07
Posts: 2075
Loc: Los Angeles, California
Originally Posted By: climhazzard
I hate to create one of these threads, but I did search and there's not much info regarding the 2012+ Civic Si smile. I just traded my GTI in over the weekend, since I was missing..having some sort of reliability. Anyway, spent some time searching and there's quite a bit of discussion regarding 0W20 oils, but none I could find that were focussed on the K24Z7, which is the "performance oriented" K24 in the Civic Si.

Toyota oils seem well thought of, and I'm not quite clear on if the new Conoco Phillips made Honda Synthetic is as good as the prior version made by Idemitsu. The Honda stuff seems expensive (around $9/qt shipped) so if Pennzoil Platinum or Mobile 1 AFE are just as good, I'm happy to go with those.

I live in Virginia so we see all sorts of weather, and I plan on changing the oil out every ~5k, unless the maintenance minder tells me to do so sooner. Your thoughts are most appreciated!


climhazzard,

Over here in California everything from Conoco Phillipps is expensive but well made oil/gasolines.

If Mobil 1 is less expensive for your pocket book then I'd go for it in a heart beat. I admit I never tried any oil products from Honda cuz in the past the dealerships only offered dealership contracted sources which never included any oils with the labels from Honda nor Toyota.

Durango

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#3185556 - 11/12/13 08:53 AM Re: Suggestions for a '13 Civic Si [Re: climhazzard]
Roob Offline


Registered: 02/19/13
Posts: 437
Loc: Ontario,Canada
Easy decision to make if you want the advantages of a high VI oil with great add pack, TGMO 0w20.
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#3185560 - 11/12/13 08:54 AM Re: Suggestions for a '13 Civic Si [Re: climhazzard]
ARCOgraphite Offline


Registered: 05/17/09
Posts: 10604
Loc: N.H, U.S.A.
My Honda runs best on Valvoline 0w20 and using a better than factory service wix filter. see below VVVVVVV
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#3185571 - 11/12/13 09:08 AM Re: Suggestions for a '13 Civic Si [Re: Durango]
Thugzy Offline


Registered: 02/13/07
Posts: 125
Loc: Canada
I agree with everyone that the K-series Honda engines are not picky at all. I have a 2011 Si Sedan with the K20Z3 and Im running GC 0W30. I drive mine quite hard, burns a bit of oil. I just added about 1/2 liter to top it off after 6000kms....

Almost all K-series engines burn oil when drivin hard with lots of high rpms. Im not sure what your oil consumption is going to be like with 0W20 and if driven hard.
Pre '12 Si's had a TSB for oil consumption issues, i believe there was an update on the piston rings. You should be ok. It would be interesting to know.



Edited by Thugzy (11/12/13 09:09 AM)

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#3185576 - 11/12/13 09:13 AM Re: Suggestions for a '13 Civic Si [Re: climhazzard]
climhazzard Offline


Registered: 02/05/11
Posts: 32
Loc: Virginia
Thanks for the great feedback everyone! I have to stick with 0w20 for warranty purposes, so my options are a bit more limited than if I could use a 5w20.

Based on the respones, it looks like almost any of the 0w20 options would be great. My only concern was I read that the Toyota (and possibly Honda?) variants are a bit thinner at startup than M1 and PP, but I'm not sure if that truly makes a real world difference.

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#3185583 - 11/12/13 09:23 AM Re: Suggestions for a '13 Civic Si [Re: climhazzard]
Thugzy Offline


Registered: 02/13/07
Posts: 125
Loc: Canada
climhazzard,

I just looked at your sig...we have similar tastes

My '11 Si is my daily driver
I also have a'01 S2000 as my Summer Toy....
only 40,000kms, never sees rain...also using GC



Cheers!

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#3185584 - 11/12/13 09:25 AM Re: Suggestions for a '13 Civic Si [Re: Thugzy]
SatinSilver Offline


Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 6705
Loc: Ohio
^ Needs another layer of wax. Come on, you know you want to. laugh
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#3185587 - 11/12/13 09:35 AM Re: Suggestions for a '13 Civic Si [Re: SatinSilver]
Thugzy Offline


Registered: 02/13/07
Posts: 125
Loc: Canada
dont tempt me...lol laugh

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#3185597 - 11/12/13 09:46 AM Re: Suggestions for a '13 Civic Si [Re: climhazzard]
Ayrton Offline


Registered: 09/28/10
Posts: 669
Loc: Washington State, U.S.
The Toyota oil is strong.

However, with your 5k mile oil changes, I'd go the easy and easy to find at good price route, Mobil 1 0w20.

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#3185604 - 11/12/13 09:51 AM Re: Suggestions for a '13 Civic Si [Re: climhazzard]
climhazzard Offline


Registered: 02/05/11
Posts: 32
Loc: Virginia
Thugzy, very nice!! I was running Mobil 1 10W30 in the S2 since I bought it and recently switched over to Castrol Edge w/ Ti this year. M1 seemed to burn a slight amount even with the low number of miles I put on it (apparently common for M1 and the F20C), but Castrol seems to be holding up quite well. I'm guessing GC runs great in our engines also.

Nice job on the wax too smile. What are you putting on there?

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#3185629 - 11/12/13 10:18 AM Re: Suggestions for a '13 Civic Si [Re: climhazzard]
tommygunn Offline


Registered: 01/27/11
Posts: 3061
Loc: usa
Napa Synthetic is still on sale this week for $3.49/qt. It is rebranded Synpower, and usually goes on sale a few times per year.
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