Originally Posted by PWMDMD
Originally Posted by KrisZ
Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by JeffKeryk
Taycan vs Model S
Gonna be fun.
Heck, our Model 3 was expensive enough. Sheesh.
The Taycan is gorgeous. The Model 3 has been around for awhile...
Model 3 needs a refresh. Over 400 mile range... A $185K Porsche killer!
Nice to see some competition.
Tesla is junk. Porsche knows how to actually build a car. Elon has had more time to figure out how to do the electric drive part, but Porsche has decades on figuring out how not to make a junk vehicle. Hard pass on both vehicles, from me, for the time being, but in 5 years? Well, I bet Porsche figures out EV way sooner than Elon figures out how to make a car.
Not sure where the junk part comes from. The Tesla sale numbers are obliterating everything in the luxury market. I would think these people that moved from Mercedes, Jaguars, BMWs etc. would would not put up with junk simply to drive electric. There is lots of room for improvement for sure though.
Why do so many people conflate sales numbers with quality/reliability? I'm not calling Tesla junk although I've read about lots of issues with them - my point is lots of junk cars sell well.
Where did I say reliability? I'm usually one that will criticize any Toyota fanboy bringing up sale numbers of Camry and Corolla as proof of their superior reliability.
But Ws6 said Teslas were junk, whatever that means. So how such a junk vehicle could steal customers from established and superior makes as Mercedes or BMW? And it has been doing it over several years already.