Motorcycle Challenge to grampi

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Originally Posted By: kballowe
Right now, we have two Hondas, two Harleys and two Indians. Having owned more that 45 street bikes, I think I can say that I never met a bike that I didn't like.

However, if you guys want to race, then (help me out here JonFromCB) we can have a friendly little race out to the West coast, then to the East Coast (and back).

ME? I'll be taking this one. I'll even bring the old lady.
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Is that an 1800? Nice ride! If I ever decide to get a touring machine, it would be one of these...
 
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: o2man98
The dates are official. I will be at the Osceola, IN drag strip the last weekend of June 2010. My invitation to Grampi is still wide open, no pun intended.


I see no point wasting my time racing a $40K V-Rod, unless you're interested in running a more fair race and ZGRider is willing to let me barrow his ZX-14.....


$40K????? Not even half that. Remember this was your M109 against my Harley.

Are you backing out already?
 
Originally Posted By: o2man98
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: o2man98
The dates are official. I will be at the Osceola, IN drag strip the last weekend of June 2010. My invitation to Grampi is still wide open, no pun intended.


I see no point wasting my time racing a $40K V-Rod, unless you're interested in running a more fair race and ZGRider is willing to let me barrow his ZX-14.....


$40K????? Not even half that. Remember this was your M109 against my Harley.

Are you backing out already?


Using your logic, if someone gives me a blower and all the hardware I need to install it on my bike, and if I do the installation myself, my bike will have $0 in mods and will therefore be stock. The point is, if you had a speed shop do the mods your bike has, the mods would've cost at least as much as you paid for the bike. Bottom line, your bike is highly modified regardless of who did the modding or how much it cost. Why would anyone in their right mind want to race you with a stock cruiser of any type? How can I back out of something I was never in?
 
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I gotta say, I also wave at everybody. I ride a sportbike. Most Harley guys don't wave back. I wish everyone could get over this [censored] and enjoy riding. I went to a party at a custom hog shop this summer, lots of fun. That being said, your VRod is beautiful! Great work, if you ever want to try your hand at a 636cc Kawasaki motor, I have one with your name on it!
 
Originally Posted By: 95busa
I gotta say, I also wave at everybody. I ride a sportbike. Most Harley guys don't wave back....


The waving thing isn't a very good evaluator of rider friendliness. Maybe the other guy is smart enough to keep both hands on the bars as much as possible rather than wave to some pilgrim.
 
Originally Posted By: SWSportsman
Originally Posted By: 95busa
I gotta say, I also wave at everybody. I ride a sportbike. Most Harley guys don't wave back....


The waving thing isn't a very good evaluator of rider friendliness. Maybe the other guy is smart enough to keep both hands on the bars as much as possible rather than wave to some pilgrim.


For some that's probably true, for others it's probably "the attitude" that keeps them from waiving...
 
Originally Posted By: Zedhed
Is it possible to wave with "ape-hangers" ?



Or when crushing your 'nads on a crotch rocket?
 
Years ago there weren't many bikes on the road so I waved. If I'm riding in 30 degree weather and see another bike then I'll still wave. I don't wave much anymore

We're rural and live off a stretch of old Route 66. This road gets a LOT of motorcycles. I'm really just tired of waving at hundreds of bikes in a single day. People will wave across four lanes of interstate and 100 yards of median. Truely they will.

I don't get it. Really, I don't.

Most of the new riders will wave. They are happy to be out and about - and I don't blame them.

Here's the way I look at it (generally).
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1. New guy (or someone just getting back into bikes after a long time) gets a bike and is happy as a clam (with good reason). Said new guy waves at everyone.
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2. Guy with 4 or 5 years riding experience still waves but gets annoyed by the end of the day after waving at 500+ bikes. This guy goes out the next day and waves at no one.
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3. Guy has 20+ years riding experience. Waves occasionally. Probably delelegates "waving" task to passenger.
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4. Long distance riders... typically don't wave at anyone. They're on the road from sun-up to sun-down for days on end. Waving at 10,000+ motorcycles is just too much trouble.
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5. Gold Wing riders (see "long distance riders", above). EXCEPTION: Some have installed the "auto-wave" feature
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6. Stuck-up wannabes that don't wave at anyone. They're too cool for that. Besides - you're not worthy.
 
Originally Posted By: SWSportsman
Originally Posted By: Zedhed
Is it possible to wave with "ape-hangers" ?



Or when crushing your 'nads on a crotch rocket?


Who waves with their "nads?" You can still wave with crushed ones, but let go of "ape-hangers" with one hand.......?
 
Originally Posted By: Zedhed
Originally Posted By: SWSportsman
Originally Posted By: Zedhed
Is it possible to wave with "ape-hangers" ?



Or when crushing your 'nads on a crotch rocket?


Who waves with their "nads?" You can still wave with crushed ones, but let go of "ape-hangers" with one hand.......?


I do, but only to the ladies. And I have 14" apes on my RK, the guys get a wave with my hand or a nod, depending on my "attitude" at the time.
 
Just got back from a couple weeks in Hawaii. No one waves at anyone other than the bus loads of Asian tourists that will wave at anything moving including a palm tree on a breezy day.

As previously mentioned by another participant, when the traffic gets to be too much, it's not only unreasonable to wave, it's also unsafe.

The traffic in the larger tourist traps is ridiculous. Lahaina is like a mini Tokyo with palm trees, Honolulu is much worse. The big island is much less congested. Hilo and Kona were reasonable for driving but for some reason, there was no place to park the day we drove to the Pacific Tsunami Centre in Hilo. I swear, there are more cars in Hawaii than there are people. I didn't rent a bike while I was there simply because the riding experience would be more of an exercise in survival than an enjoyable cruise.

If it wasn't for the wall to wall people, traffic and constant noise, Hawaii could be a nice place. It's certainly not what I look for in a vacation.

I saw the volcanoes, the big surf and the whales. That's what I went for. So, it's "Been there. Done that." I won't be going back.
 
yes but on the back roads of Nebraska and Iowa, during calm weather, and with no traffic its easier to weed out the buttholes. The few non wavers tend to be Harleyophiles. I worked with one. She did not even consider the 883 a "real" bike. In order for it to be a real bike it had to be a Harley and have at least a liter of displacement.

Of course she was also one of those people that thought if it wasn't a hemi, it wasn't a real muscle car.
 
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Originally Posted By: kballowe
Years ago there weren't many bikes on the road so I waved. If I'm riding in 30 degree weather and see another bike then I'll still wave. I don't wave much anymore

We're rural and live off a stretch of old Route 66. This road gets a LOT of motorcycles. I'm really just tired of waving at hundreds of bikes in a single day. People will wave across four lanes of interstate and 100 yards of median. Truely they will.

I don't get it. Really, I don't.

Most of the new riders will wave. They are happy to be out and about - and I don't blame them.

Here's the way I look at it (generally).
.
1. New guy (or someone just getting back into bikes after a long time) gets a bike and is happy as a clam (with good reason). Said new guy waves at everyone.
.
2. Guy with 4 or 5 years riding experience still waves but gets annoyed by the end of the day after waving at 500+ bikes. This guy goes out the next day and waves at no one.
.
3. Guy has 20+ years riding experience. Waves occasionally. Probably delelegates "waving" task to passenger.
.
4. Long distance riders... typically don't wave at anyone. They're on the road from sun-up to sun-down for days on end. Waving at 10,000+ motorcycles is just too much trouble.
.
5. Gold Wing riders (see "long distance riders", above). EXCEPTION: Some have installed the "auto-wave" feature
.
6. Stuck-up wannabes that don't wave at anyone. They're too cool for that. Besides - you're not worthy.



This is a pretty good description...
 
Originally Posted By: Robenstein
yes but on the back roads of Nebraska and Iowa, during calm weather, and with no traffic its easier to weed out the buttholes. The few non wavers tend to be Harleyophiles. I worked with one. She did not even consider the 883 a "real" bike. In order for it to be a real bike it had to be a Harley and have at least a liter of displacement.

Of course she was also one of those people that thought if it wasn't a hemi, it wasn't a real muscle car.


I have a friend who bought a Sportster and was very pleased with it until he went through the HD indoctrination down at the donut shop. The "real Harley" guys/girls were calling it a skirtster and humiliated him to the point where he had to trade up to fit in. That was after only one year of ownership and putting $3000.00 worth of goodies having it re-painted, forward controls installed and a few other unnecessary decorations. He bought a bigger HD now all is square with the world.

Nothing like peer pressure to make one do dumb things.... Herd mentality at it's finest.
 
Hey it's the same with pickup trucks. I drove a Ford Ranger or Chevy S10 for years. Many asked me when I was going to get a real truck. I also had a 1-ton dually for the hauling chores.... but it wasn't all that great for the every day driving. Most of the naysayers had full sized trucks that never even hauled a stick of wood, let alone horses, cattle, and feed, etc. No matter - they had a "real" truck.

This is America. Bigger is better, right?
 
"This is America. Bigger is better, right?"

You bet!

Bigger mortgages, bigger credit card debt, bigger car/truck payments, bigger fuel consumption..... all much better!

Competitiveness to the point of the absurd.

I drive/buy what I deem best for me. No one ever has or ever will have enough influence on me to have an effect on the choices I make. Especially some leather clad wannabe who lives in a donut shop and worships a motorcycle.

If you can't think for yourself, I guess you're doomed to have others do it for you.

By the way, he had bought the pristine Sportster used with low miles on it. He lost a grand on the purchase price alone as well as the three grand he put into it. So he lost $4000.00 on the Sportster deal and had to spend an additional $6500.00 + the proceeds from the Sportster to buy up to a used bigger HD. But now he's accepted and all is well.....so far.
 
Originally Posted By: kballowe
Hey it's the same with pickup trucks. I drove a Ford Ranger or Chevy S10 for years. Many asked me when I was going to get a real truck. I also had a 1-ton dually for the hauling chores.... but it wasn't all that great for the every day driving. Most of the naysayers had full sized trucks that never even hauled a stick of wood, let alone horses, cattle, and feed, etc. No matter - they had a "real" truck.

This is America. Bigger is better, right?




I put a lot of SBC motors in 80's S-10s. For toy trucks they sure hauled butt with a 350 stroked and bored to 388.
 
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