Originally Posted By: Patman
I'd like to know, if Mobil 1 is so bad, why aren't engines failing left right and center? In the Corvette world, I would venture to say that Mobil 1 is by far the most popular choice. And there are quite a few C5 and C6 owners out there with well over 200k on their engines without any issues.
So this notion of M1 making engines louder or having higher iron in some UOAs is simply poppycock, it has no effect on the engine longevity whatsoever. You'll often hear some "friend of a friend" mention how Mobil 1 made his engine blow up, but he'll leave out the part where he slapped on a 20psi turbo onto a stock Honda engine at the same time. NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY, is going to have lubrication problems with M1 that cause their engine to wear out sooner. I wish this nonsense would go away for good. And in case someone thinks I'm just another M1 fanboy, I'm not, you'll notice I'm running Castrol in my wife's BMW, M1 in my Corvette and my next oil change in my Civic will be with Pennzoil Ultra Platinum.
You’re missing the point, Patman. As I have said numerous times, your engine isn’t likely to grenade using it, but rather it just isn’t worth the money they charge for it.
Mobil reminds me of those that also choose to use Yamalube oil in their 4 stroke snowmobiles. At $21.00 dollars a liter, VOAs and UOAs have proven it is $3-$4 dollar a liter oil at best, but because it reads, Yamaha (Yamalube) on the side of the bottle, they automatically think it must be special stuff, especially when they also believe, you get what you pay for. “Fools and their money are soon parted”.
Like I have said numerous times, if it is worth the money and is everything Mobil claims it is; “World Class”, “Leading Synthetic”, “Superior”, “Technologically advanced”, “For motorists who want the best”, shouldn’t it at the very least have the best UOAs and the quietest running engines?
I know you think that is poppycock, but the proof is right in front of you, on this site and others. UOA after UOA of Mobil oils notoriously showing higher than average wear metals in them. Why is that? Many UOAs, after members have switched up from using Mobil come back with far better looking UOAs. Why is that? Some of those, like me, also claim their engines are now running quieter. Why is that?
It’s the million dollar question that can never be conclusively answered it seems. If there was a reasonable explanation for it, or if the UOAs were equal or close to other different oil UOAs, then we wouldn’t even be discussing it, would we?
It just bothers me how many have drunk the Kool-Aid, myself included, (until I smartened up) when the facts/info show, there is nothing special, or World class leading about it.
In my opinion, it is just an average, run of the mill oil that should be priced accordingly, not priced like it’s an elite oil or a head and shoulders above the rest, oil.
I know, I know, many vehicles exist out there that have thousands and thousands of miles on them using Mobil-1 oil, but don’t think for a moment that those same miles couldn’t have been accumulated running a far less expensive oil that doesn’t go out of it’s way tricking/sucking people in with its marketing hype and special claims like Mobil likes to do.
Patman, I know you love your Corvette, and rightfully so, I like them too, but keep in mind, and don’t forget, GM dealerships get reimbursed for using Mobil –1 oil. Do you think for a moment, they are more concerned about the oil and your engine, or more concerned about making money?
