Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
Originally Posted By: beastykato
Sorry, I'm ticked off and left out some details. The J35Z2 is the engine I believe. I was typing so fast and didn't even realize I left out what actually happened to the V6. I was driving and it misfired and rapidly flashed check engine light. I immediately pulled over and checked fluids. It burned off some of the oil, but was still within normal spec. I had it towed to the dealer under warranty. Customer service on all ends has been awful.
Yes, everything is perfect for oil and filters. Warranty claim is being covered because they have already been sued over this issue and it affects every single Honda V6 with VCM across Accord, Odyssey, Pilot. I have every single receipt kept and proved it all to them after having an experience with my R18 Civic blowing up in 2012. That car was replaced with this Accord... which now also blew up (not technically but the rings are toast, I'm being dramatic). I'm still fighting with them to provide me a rental for their manufacturing defect though, even though my car is under warranty.
Of course, I get the immature responses about running low on oil. No [censored] @Lotl. Actually, my oil wasn't "low" on my Accord it was just barely above the low line. The oil blew past the ring because the engine is known to be faulty due to the VCM. Thanks for the mature response though. And how come all the other vehicles in my care aren't low on oil? Gimme a break.
Sorry, you are being quite dramatic here.
What actually happened? Just a check engine light? What do you mean by the engine is "blown"? Should not have gotten a light if it was only 1 L down.
How many km did it take to get 1L down? Sounds like normal oil consumption to me. Normal to burn about 1L/5000 km.
All cars burn oil, and with the longer oil change intervals now, it will require topping off between oil changes. It is not specifically VCM that does this. We see the same thing on engines whether they have VCM or not.
I understand that you think that amount of oil usage is normal. However, I completely disagree with you.
I've had this car since it had 3 miles on. I've done every single oil change of the vehicle now for 6 years. I even change my tranny fluid EVERY oil change. It requires a 3x drain and fill so I do a 1x drain and fill every oil change instead of doing it all at once. For 90000 miles I've not burned any oil and all of a sudden I lose a ~quart? If my car had a history of this oil consumption I could see your point. The way it seems to me the damage being done from the VCM got to the point that this consumption began to occur more rapidly. I'm not a mechanic though, but I do have some common sense.
An exact account of the incident is this:
Left home for work, I got on the highway and drove for a short time (~5 minutes) and then while cruising at 70-80mph the car suddenly shook and the engine light began to flash rapidly when I could see the toll booth in the distance. I was approaching the toll booth and continued to drive slowly thru it seeing if it would stop. I went thru the toll booth and pulled my manual from the glove box and pulled my car over and shut it down. When stopped the engine shake became much more noticeable. I called HondaCare and went out and checked my fluids. I did everything by the book, shut the car down within a couple minutes of the engine light coming on, etc. If my car had arrived at the dealer low on oil I'm sure they would have tried to blame me for the incident.
I was being dramatic I was infuriated with my treatment from Honda and was angry and ticked off. Me saying the engine "blew" was definitely overdramatic. The engine was misfiring and the dealer told me that the rings were bad. The dealer gave me a rental ... Finally only after me flipping out and making them call HondaCare. HondaCare instructed me that I was indeed correct the whole time and should have been given a rental as soon as the problem was identified.
The dealer insisted they were just following Honda's policy in regards to the service bulletin released.
Meanwhile, 3 days since the incident and Honda still doesn't even have an agent assigned to my case number. And I've received no help from them at all. If I had not taken matters into my own hands I'd be sitting here with no vehicle.
I don't blame the dealer or Hondacare. If I'm being told the truth on all ends this problem roots back to Honda. As HondaCare was behind me from the get-go and the dealer claims to be following Honda's rules.
EDIT: And to be fair in this. I own a Honda dirtbike, a pressure washer, a lawn mower, a Ridgeline, and my Accord. I've owned Fords, Chevy, Pontiac, a Corolla and the R18 Civic. I became a Honda fanboy, but the only engine I've ever had fail in my life has been a Honda.
My ridgeline does not have the VCM, but then again it only has 50k miles on it. So, I'm crossing my fingers.
I'm not trying to portray Honda as the worst vehicle on earth. This 2012 Accord, I thought, was going be the best vehicle I've ever had. I have not had a single issue with hit at all. No creaks, no rattles, windows work, completely flawless operation up until this.
My experience though is that the 2 vehicles I've had have operated great up until they had a catastrophic failure that left my engine inoperable. That's my experience.
