Another Scandal - Subaru

[wemay]

Originally Posted By: Silverado12
Originally Posted By: LoneRanger
Originally Posted By: wemay


http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/27/news/companies/subaru-inspection-scandal-japan/index.html


For weak inspections to really cause a problem, there has to be low quality or bad methods during production. Neither Nissan nor Subaru have those production problems. I see this as a non-issue. Along with Toyota, both are probably in the top tier of best practices during the manufacturing process. The fact some employees were conducting quality assurance inspections before they were certificated internally within the company for that task, really seems rather a big scare over nothing within two of the world's top quality auto makers.



It is when they're faking QC reports on aircraft metal. I wouldn't trust Honda, Toyota or Nissan anymore than GM Chrysler or any other company. The lack of QC becomes a problem when their junk goes onto our public roads.


I believe you're combining two separate issues.

1. Subaru and Nissan used uncertified QC Inspectors during final assembly. Link seen in this thread.

2. Kobe Steel lied about the strength of their metals sold to various entities. Some of which include, Subaru, Toyota, Honda, GM, Ford and Boeing.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/10/business/kobe-steel-japan.amp.html#ampshare=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/10/business/kobe-steel-japan.html

 

[Nick1994]

Originally Posted By: Johnny2Bad
To the Original Poster: Your topic and initial post offers no information about what you are talking about. Luckily people here are good mind readers. Use your words.
+1

 

[DweezilAZ]

Originally Posted By: Johnny2Bad
To the Original Poster: Your topic and initial post offers no information about what you are talking about. Luckily people here are good mind readers. Use your words.

True, but he's from SE Asia. Amazing that BITOG is so wisely read and that he wants to participate. People picked up the thread and added links.

 

[Colt45ws]

Originally Posted By: wemay
Originally Posted By: Silverado12
Originally Posted By: LoneRanger
Originally Posted By: wemay


http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/27/news/companies/subaru-inspection-scandal-japan/index.html


For weak inspections to really cause a problem, there has to be low quality or bad methods during production. Neither Nissan nor Subaru have those production problems. I see this as a non-issue. Along with Toyota, both are probably in the top tier of best practices during the manufacturing process. The fact some employees were conducting quality assurance inspections before they were certificated internally within the company for that task, really seems rather a big scare over nothing within two of the world's top quality auto makers.



It is when they're faking QC reports on aircraft metal. I wouldn't trust Honda, Toyota or Nissan anymore than GM Chrysler or any other company. The lack of QC becomes a problem when their junk goes onto our public roads.


I believe you're combining two separate issues.

1. Subaru and Nissan used uncertified QC Inspectors during final assembly. Link seen in this thread.

2. Kobe Steel lied about the strength of their metals sold to various entities. Some of which include, Subaru, Toyota, Honda, GM, Ford and Boeing.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/10/business/kobe-steel-japan.amp.html#ampshare=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/10/business/kobe-steel-japan.html



Yeah, different companies. The Kobe steel thing is going to be a disaster like Takata if not worse. Boeing and Airbus got Al from them. What if they end up scrapping whole planes over it because a significant or structural portion of the plane is the questionable material making it too costly to repair? Will be interesting to see where that goes.

The Subaru and Nissan thing seems to have been a misunderstanding/ignorance of the law. The inspectors were likely trained and so you know why not let them do inspections on their own? It probably just amounted to paper work not being done before they were released on their own.

 

[Andrew1972]

The upside is a large portions of vehicles sold by Subaru in us have been built in Indiana since 1989. Initially all Legacy then Outback/Legacy and recently I believe Forester started to in USA.