Idk. I cut back on a lot of stuff, but even after cutbacks the expenses are 30% higher now than they were before this madness.7.6% inflation
Idk. I cut back on a lot of stuff, but even after cutbacks the expenses are 30% higher now than they were before this madness.7.6% inflation
I actually just calculated the Ford inflationIdk. I cut back on a lot of stuff, but even after cutbacks the expenses are 30% higher now than they were before this madness.
Oh I’m sure. I know a lot of it here is preferred vehicle selection because of my location.@Torrid around here we have low performance drivers driving all kinds of cars... You wouldn't believe how fast Corollas, Sentras and Subies are! And how little room they need to squeeze in at speed...
For some reason parade float cracked me upTry towing my boat, parade float, or travel trailer with that.
We get it Torrid you don't like trucks. I don't particularly care for Toyota,VW or Tesla. Personal preference. The difference is I don't care if people own them, i won't give them a hard time if they do and certainly don't care what anyone pays for them, especially if it makes them happy.
Having said that EVERYTHING is pricey right now. The wife and I do fine, but I don't know how some people make it.
stood next to a new ranger the other day...Literally the same size as my nephew's 99 F150XLmaverick and ranger exist?
Good point. and to @Torrid ’s point, I get startled, rattled, and angry a little more when I see a 6000lb vehicle being aggressive or reckless than a 3000lb one. Happened last week … dusk, blue headlights in a sea of blue headlights. the pack was way back, 150 yards but I didnt see that his speed was well over everyone else’s. I pulled out and he was rolling up fast. Best I could tell he didn’t brake. I was doing 45 when we nearly plowed into my bumper, and he swerved out of the lane, cut around me, swerved back in. 24” wheels with wide tires and a 4” lift, and his truck was rocking back and forth as you could hear the tires clawing sideways. My issue that I misjudged his speed. His issue for easily rolling 25 over the limit and driving like that. It would have still been startling had he been in a civic, but would not have come off as threatening. That leaves an impression if you experience it often.@Torrid around here we have low performance drivers driving all kinds of cars... You wouldn't believe how fast Corollas, Sentras and Subies are! And how little room they need to squeeze in at speed...
LOL. It is a real thing!For some reason parade float cracked me up
I love it! I used to always help out with parade floats when I was in high school. I had so much fun with these projects.
Well that is one thing we can agree to disagree on. I see more cars doing stupid stuff every day. As a matter of fact, once you hook something up to the truck, they get even worse, cut you off, tailgate, fill in the spot that you are keeping open for safe stopping distance, drive in your blind spot...that list goes on and on.I don’t particularly have a cut and dry distain for truck owners, I have problem with less skilled drivers in oversized vehicles that don’t have them to use for their intended purposes.
The majority of reckless drivers I see are driving trucks. I can say for sure I can count on one hand how many people I’ve seen driving reckless towing a trailer. It’s pretty safe to say someone who tows knows a bit more about driving safely. It’s more of a behavior issue than a truck issue. My biggest gripe is that those reckless drivers are piloting a large heavy vehicle.
This one has been a labor of love. I redid the whole trailer, paint, decking, electrical. The trailer was bought used and is heavy. Was used for construction equipment. Someone built the replica conning tower and installed it for us. We do about 7 events a year with it. Bonefish was a GATO class submarine lost in WWII with all hands.I love it! I used to always help out with parade floats when I was in high school. I had so much fun with these projects.
I'm sure that happens too and I'd see more of it if I towed. Some people really don't understand stopping distances and see slower moving vehicles as an inconvenience(even at the speed limit) when you're just being a safe driver. I get that driving is a privilege, but I think way too many see it as a right and have no idea the implications of what could happen by making a mistake while ignoring the laws of physics.Well that is one thing we can agree to disagree on. I see more cars doing stupid stuff every day. As a matter of fact, once you hook something up to the truck, they get even worse, cut you off, tailgate, fill in the spot that you are keeping open for safe stopping distance, drive in your blind spot...that list goes on and on.
Hours of labor at a modern car assembly plant per vehicle is in the 20-40hr range. So even at a $100/hr its not a real big factor for a $50k+ truck... And I imagine the F150 line is quite efficient, so its probably closer to 20 for them. So the pay raise the unions got is what $2-300 per truck? The doc fees and dealer BS is a much bigger factor in what people pay.aren't they all introduced the raise pay to the labor force for all major car manufacturers in US lately??!
so someone will be covering the costs in the near future
i also wonder if the raise toyota and other non union plants just got, would be possible without uaw setting a precedence?Hours of labor at a modern car assembly plant per vehicle is in the 20-40hr range. So even at a $100/hr its not a real big factor for a $50k+ truck... And I imagine the F150 line is quite efficient, so its probably closer to 20 for them. So the pay raise the unions got is what $2-300 per truck? The doc fees and dealer BS is a much bigger factor in what people pay.
I wonder even if all the workers in the parts plants made $100/hr, how much that would actually raise the cost of production for a vehicle like the F150? Another $1k? How many more F150's at $50k+ would ford sell if another 100k blue collar guys made $100/hr?
Heck we'd be back like the 60's and 70's when a single income bought a nice house...
Not to go all socialist, but it seems capitalism is working well for those with the capital, not so great for the working folks...
Probably not to the level they got. They don’t want employees having the urge to unionize.i also wonder if the raise toyota and other non union plants just got, would be possible without uaw setting a precedence?
I don’t think I recall seeing any form of base XL on the local dealer’s site. They all at least had the STX appearance package.2024 Ford F-150 entry point: $38,565
Seems reasonable for what you get at that price, but you will have to order it since the dealers will only stock $70K or higher trucks in their lots.
Only if the consumer is willing to pay for it. My guess is it will be a balance of price increases and labor reductions due to automation.And it's only going to go up after the strike settlement for higher pay.