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#2432876 - 11/12/11 06:04 PM Quaker State 'Defy'
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#2433456 - 11/13/11 02:19 PM Re: Quaker State 'Defy' [Re: rcy]
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I kind of like it, but it does make me wonder. At one time, high mileage oils, along with seal swellers or conditioners, had higher ZDDP and weren't ILSAC rated - after all, a "high mileage" engine is likely out of warranty, and an older engine might benefit from higher ZDDP. Now, that seems to have gone by the wayside.

So, Quaker State Defy comes along, seemingly targeted to higher mileage vehicles that need more ZDDP. Is this going to be another PP/PU situation? I have an application that could benefit from Defy. However, at least two things need to happen. First, it actually has to be available. Secondly, it had better be cheaper than semi-synthetic high mileage oils.

If neither are the case, once again we have an answer to a question no one asked.
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#2433512 - 11/13/11 03:49 PM Re: Quaker State 'Defy' [Re: rcy]
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It's all about product differentiation. How is QS going to market this?
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#2433516 - 11/13/11 03:54 PM Re: Quaker State 'Defy' [Re: rcy]
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I would definitely use it, if I can find it.
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#2433558 - 11/13/11 04:37 PM Re: Quaker State 'Defy' [Re: rcy]
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"Defy" is an odd name for an oil. Defy what? The effect of advancing miles on older engines? The EPA for mandating lower SAPS oils? Maybe it does have some appeal from a marketing standpoint.


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#2433565 - 11/13/11 04:41 PM Re: Quaker State 'Defy' [Re: rcy]
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Well to "defy" means to challenge something, namely the impossible. Perhaps it will "defy" engine wear?
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#2433610 - 11/13/11 05:40 PM Re: Quaker State 'Defy' [Re: rcy]
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The same oil can be applied by our wives to reduce wrinkles around their eyes and defy age. This is a first product of a new generation product line that defies and promotes harmony at the same time. Age of Aquarius is upon us!
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#2433667 - 11/13/11 06:54 PM Re: Quaker State 'Defy' [Re: Y_K]
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Name: Quaker State Defy
Description: Quaker State Defy is a new kind of motor oil that saves car owners money by extending the life of their engines, especially ones with miles on them. It does so with an advanced anti-wear system proven in tests to prevent up to 98% of future engine wear.
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Quaker State Defy saves car owners money by stopping engine wear in its tracks. In recent tests with real engines, Quaker State Defy was shown to prevent up to 98% of future engine wear, extending the life of engines.

It does so thanks to an advanced anti-wear system that greatly increases the amount of zinc in the oil. Zinc has long been recognized as an outstanding anti-wear agent in combustion engines. Oil makers, however, had been forced to limit the amount of zinc in modern oils because it interfered with the performance of current emission system equipment.

With Quaker State Defy synthetic blend, we’ve innovated a way to add 50% more zinc-based anti-wear additives (ZDDP) than the latest GF5 oil specifications call for, without risk to emission system equipment.

Quaker State Defy is especially welcome news for owners of older and used cars, but they needn’t wait ‘til they reach 75,000 miles. The sooner they start using it, the sooner they can stop engine wear in its tracks.


Edited by bandz7 (11/13/11 06:57 PM)
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#2433793 - 11/13/11 09:36 PM Re: Quaker State 'Defy' [Re: rcy]
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Like Always panty liners! DARE to be FRESH! wink
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#2433807 - 11/13/11 09:55 PM Re: Quaker State 'Defy' [Re: rcy]
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Registered: 06/30/11
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Cool. I will definitely buy some if I can find it. My Jeep should love it...and all our cars are pretty old.
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#2433816 - 11/13/11 10:14 PM Re: Quaker State 'Defy' [Re: rcy]
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Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 13410
Loc: Canada
Interesting that the press release was from Canada, and they mention it will be on shelves in Canada next spring.

Now, looking at the bottle...is this just going to replace QS HM oil? Is it just a guarateed high-zinc version of the current HM oil they have?
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#2433844 - 11/13/11 11:39 PM Re: Quaker State 'Defy' [Re: rcy]
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Registered: 05/27/11
Posts: 149
Loc: Canada
Age-defying formula. I can see this appealing to women...
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#2434143 - 11/14/11 12:14 PM Re: Quaker State 'Defy' [Re: rcy]
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Registered: 04/13/11
Posts: 244
Loc: Kansas
While I think this oil is mostly marketing-dept genius, I think it makes a good point.

Anyone remember the quaker state hi mileage oils that didn't even have the API donuts on them?
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#2434158 - 11/14/11 12:34 PM Re: Quaker State 'Defy' [Re: rcy]
Solarent Offline


Registered: 10/24/11
Posts: 415
Loc: Calgary AB
It wouldn't surprise me if this is a resurrected additive package formula from back in the day that has been blended with new generation base oils. This one will be an interesting one to keep an eye on because without the new standards and relying on Zinc for "older engines" seems to fly right in the face of what the EPA is trying to accomplish.

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#2434177 - 11/14/11 01:00 PM Re: Quaker State 'Defy' [Re: rcy]
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Registered: 09/07/11
Posts: 155
Loc: MN
Be glad. Now the wives won't go to Macy to buy an ounce of anti-wrinkle for hundreds of dollar. Instead, they'll go to auto store with you to buy this special oil for less than $10 per qt. lol

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