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#1118318 - 03/30/08 07:21 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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The only reason to replace the rotors is if they are warped for the most part. Most Toyota's in my family go 17 year's ormore ont he same rotors just replace the pads every 100,000-150,000 miles. Their should be two pins going left to right. Then you should have a saftey retainer that is made out of wire. It does kind of what a cotter key does. It goes into a small pin hole in each one of those retaining pins. Once you have those two thin pins out the pads will come right out. It really is the easisiet system on the planet to work on you will never need more then standard tools to work on it now torx bits, nothing to lube etc......

No know I always bleed my Toyota's right at the caliper or drums starting with the one farthiest from the master cylinder!


Edited by JohnBrowning (03/30/08 07:24 PM)

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#1118320 - 03/30/08 07:26 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: JohnBrowning]
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Registered: 08/30/04
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Loc: Walnut Creek, CA
 Originally Posted By: JohnBrowning
nothing to lube etc......



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#1118348 - 03/30/08 08:21 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: Char Baby]
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 Originally Posted By: Char Baby
PT 1
More like a fluid extractor. One man operation. Connects to the caliper bleeder valve. Pump up the vacuum and then open the bleeder valve on the caliper. Captures the fluid in it's own little attached jar. Does not connect the the break master cylinder like a power bleeder. A bit low tech and low cost but, works great and have been using it for many years older non ABS equiped as well as the newer vehicles with ABS, VSC, Traction Control etc.(vehicles that use the brakes to gain traction in foul weather).


Good because that is exactly what I have. The motive one even came with a hose for the brake bleeder so I am definitely in business!
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#1118349 - 03/30/08 08:22 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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 Originally Posted By: The Critic
 Originally Posted By: JohnBrowning
nothing to lube etc......




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#1118354 - 03/30/08 08:28 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: JohnBrowning]
PT1 Offline


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 Originally Posted By: JohnBrowning
The only reason to replace the rotors is if they are warped for the most part. Most Toyota's in my family go 17 year's ormore ont he same rotors just replace the pads every 100,000-150,000 miles. Their should be two pins going left to right. Then you should have a saftey retainer that is made out of wire. It does kind of what a cotter key does. It goes into a small pin hole in each one of those retaining pins. Once you have those two thin pins out the pads will come right out. It really is the easisiet system on the planet to work on you will never need more then standard tools to work on it now torx bits, nothing to lube etc......

No know I always bleed my Toyota's right at the caliper or drums starting with the one farthiest from the master cylinder!


Here in Ohio where they dump hundreds of metric tons of salt on the roads 4 months a year you never wear out rotors as they corrode away long before they wear out. The fronts get hot enough to self clean but the rears rarely make it past 2 sets of pads before the edges begin to disappear. Then this crud gets in between the pad & rotor and gives you a spongy pedal because you are pushing through grit every time you step on the brakes. I have had my kids Honda at the dealer having them look for a fluid leak only to realize the pads needed cleaning. The fronts on the Lexus are corroded to the point where the vent webs are beginning to disappear...time to replace them even though they still have enough surface to turn them once more. \:\(
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#1118544 - 03/31/08 07:18 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
Char Baby Offline


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Loc: Rochester NY
JohnBrowning,
I wish I could go umteen years without replacing rotors. Due to the road salt and stop & go driving here where I live, I can't drive my vehicles more that about 6 years before replacing rotors(some vehicles only about 3-4 years). Toyota/Lexus or any other vehicle for that matter. At some point they all warp to the level where the vibration becomes violent.
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#1118568 - 03/31/08 07:58 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: Char Baby]
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 Originally Posted By: Char Baby
JohnBrowning,
I wish I could go umteen years without replacing rotors. Due to the road salt and stop & go driving here where I live, I can't drive my vehicles more that about 6 years before replacing rotors(some vehicles only about 3-4 years). Toyota/Lexus or any other vehicle for that matter. At some point they all warp to the level where the vibration becomes violent.


Mine rarely warp...just dissolve away. I get 4 years max out of a set.
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#1119355 - 04/01/08 06:42 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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PT1,
Me too! I've had rotors that didn't warp but, corroded so badly from the road salt that they wore down the pads to the metal in a type of grinding effect. My rotors, reguardless of warpage or corroding, are usually beyond turning and I just throw them away. Years ago (60's & 70's vehicles), I never replaced rotors and drove them for years. Rotors were very expensive to replace back then but were made out of great metal. Today they're quite affordable.
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#1119525 - 04/01/08 11:26 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: Char Baby]
PT1 Offline


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 Originally Posted By: Char Baby
PT1,
Me too! I've had rotors that didn't warp but, corroded so badly from the road salt that they wore down the pads to the metal in a type of grinding effect. My rotors, reguardless of warpage or corroding, are usually beyond turning and I just throw them away. Years ago (60's & 70's vehicles), I never replaced rotors and drove them for years. Rotors were very expensive to replace back then but were made out of great metal. Today they're quite affordable.


I know...my wife is from the LeRoy-Batavia area and you get the same salt corrosion we do. We plan to move South in 3-4 years when the kids exit high school. Then the never ending salt bath will cease.
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#1120018 - 04/02/08 12:28 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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Registered: 05/01/03
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Loc: USA
What is so funny about nothing to lube??? GM and most other domestic still use cheap slider designs with pins that need to be lubed and replaced from time to time. The seals go bad on the them and they rust etc.....I have been lucky enough to own TOyota's for a long long time. In fact my 1986 Toyota 4Runner had what looked like Brembo's but where cast out of iron for the front with some seriously large rotors for the time. Seeing how my rotors made it 17 year's and were only turned once I would say I was doing something right.In fact when I replaced the rotors I became the first person in my extended family to ever need to replace rotors on any Toyota the family has owned since 1971!

My family in general own a mix of Toyota,GM and Chrysler products. In general the owns that own GM and Chrysler need to freq. replace rotors,drums and friction and the GM's are the worst for roting away.I have never seen a Toyota rot it rotors and drums away. I live in Michigan and Ihave a Tundra,Tacoma,2 Camry's and a Buick that I am responable for serviceing.


Edited by JohnBrowning (04/02/08 12:33 AM)

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#1120032 - 04/02/08 01:32 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: JohnBrowning]
The Critic Online   crying


Registered: 08/30/04
Posts: 17793
Loc: Walnut Creek, CA
 Originally Posted By: JohnBrowning
What is so funny about nothing to lube??? GM and most other domestic still use cheap slider designs with pins that need to be lubed and replaced from time to time. The seals go bad on the them and they rust etc.....I have been lucky enough to own TOyota's for a long long time. In fact my 1986 Toyota 4Runner had what looked like Brembo's but where cast out of iron for the front with some seriously large rotors for the time. Seeing how my rotors made it 17 year's and were only turned once I would say I was doing something right.In fact when I replaced the rotors I became the first person in my extended family to ever need to replace rotors on any Toyota the family has owned since 1971!

My family in general own a mix of Toyota,GM and Chrysler products. In general the owns that own GM and Chrysler need to freq. replace rotors,drums and friction and the GM's are the worst for roting away.I have never seen a Toyota rot it rotors and drums away. I live in Michigan and Ihave a Tundra,Tacoma,2 Camry's and a Buick that I am responable for serviceing.

Toyota's factory service manual requires lubricating the INNER (not outer) brake pad shim and the slide pins. I also recommend lubricating the pad support plates (commonly referred to as caliper abutment clips) and the part of the pad that contacts the caliper.

This is essential for noise control.

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#1121096 - 04/03/08 11:22 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
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Well I got my parts today and they are the Advanced Technology rotors and pads. The parts guy said they lifetime warrant the pads so when they are worn more than 75-80% bring them back for free replacements. Wish me luck!
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#1121112 - 04/03/08 11:37 AM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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Registered: 08/30/04
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Loc: Walnut Creek, CA
 Originally Posted By: PT1
Well I got my parts today and they are the Advanced Technology rotors and pads. The parts guy said they lifetime warrant the pads so when they are worn more than 75-80% bring them back for free replacements. Wish me luck!

Post up some pictures of the new parts when you get a chance, thanks.


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#1121143 - 04/03/08 12:07 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: The Critic]
PT1 Offline


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 Originally Posted By: The Critic
 Originally Posted By: PT1
Well I got my parts today and they are the Advanced Technology rotors and pads. The parts guy said they lifetime warrant the pads so when they are worn more than 75-80% bring them back for free replacements. Wish me luck!

Post up some pictures of the new parts when you get a chance, thanks.



How do you post pics on this site?
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#1121144 - 04/03/08 12:08 PM Re: Lexus RX330 complete brake job [Re: PT1]
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Registered: 08/30/04
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 Originally Posted By: PT1
 Originally Posted By: The Critic
 Originally Posted By: PT1
Well I got my parts today and they are the Advanced Technology rotors and pads. The parts guy said they lifetime warrant the pads so when they are worn more than 75-80% bring them back for free replacements. Wish me luck!

Post up some pictures of the new parts when you get a chance, thanks.



How do you post pics on this site?

Upload to http://www.photobucket.com. They give you an option to select the image with the "IMG" tags. Copy, paste and post that entire link. The link you post should resemble something like [IMG]http://XXXXX[/IMG].

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