Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: ram_man
I do have a scan tool why would you think I didnt?
Because half the the threads about issues you post on here, you never make any mention of codes being read or the like
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I have a few hundred dollar one it does basic things completely different from what i spoke of in another thread such as the modis.
Is it a Walmart Equis or something? I'm guessing you aren't getting real time readouts of various temperatures on the vehicle. I have a scanner that I spent a few bucks on (AutoEnginuity) and it does basically everything.
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the car was warm enough to kick cooling fans on.
They weren't on because you had the defrost running, which automatically turns on the fans once it is warm enough to fire the AC compressor?
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And no I wouldnt do this all the time.
You said you've been doing this for a while. And you said you do it all the time to your RAM.
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But you act like doing it one time will somehow harm something. And thats plain ridiculous.
So filling your oil with fuel is harmless? Cool. You're the expert obviously. I stand corrected.
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But I own two gm products and two chryslers maybe they arent as sensitive as the poorly built ford....and yes I said poorly built that focus is a miserable car. Its been moslty reliable but it is definitely a penalty box.
LOL!!! Dude, you bought a weapon truck that you are now complaining about the gas mileage on, put a fuel pump in it, still couldn't get it working, took it to a shop who replaced the filter put ANOTHER pump in it, and then you replaced the O2 today hoping it fixes your 80's gas mileage problem. You have a Saturn with a mystery misfire.... Do I need to go digging back through your other threads?
You flood your mom's Focus and then pump the pedal, flooding it worse because you didn't know enough to go WOT to do a flood clear start and the car is a POS? And seriously, you drive a Saturn and call the Focus a penalty box? I've had plenty of seat time in both big guy and the Focus is the nicer car. Yeah, there are nicer cars in the segment in terms of interior (Jetta, 3-series) but a 2011 Focus isn't any more "miserable" than anything else that was in its price bracket.
And I know you have a dislike for Ford products, we've been through that your entire tenure on this board. So it comes as no surprise that you'd try to pass the buck on your own lack of knowledge as to the issue being with the vehicle's manufacturer and not resting solely on your shoulders where it belongs. You flooded the car and didn't know how to do a flood clear. Now you do. Live and learn.
I didn't read your whole blurb of [censored] but my scanner does abs trans and engine codes and live data. The reason I haven't posted any codes is because there aren't any.
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: ram_man
I do have a scan tool why would you think I didnt?
Because half the the threads about issues you post on here, you never make any mention of codes being read or the like
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I have a few hundred dollar one it does basic things completely different from what i spoke of in another thread such as the modis.
Is it a Walmart Equis or something? I'm guessing you aren't getting real time readouts of various temperatures on the vehicle. I have a scanner that I spent a few bucks on (AutoEnginuity) and it does basically everything.
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the car was warm enough to kick cooling fans on.
They weren't on because you had the defrost running, which automatically turns on the fans once it is warm enough to fire the AC compressor?
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And no I wouldnt do this all the time.
You said you've been doing this for a while. And you said you do it all the time to your RAM.
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But you act like doing it one time will somehow harm something. And thats plain ridiculous.
So filling your oil with fuel is harmless? Cool. You're the expert obviously. I stand corrected.
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But I own two gm products and two chryslers maybe they arent as sensitive as the poorly built ford....and yes I said poorly built that focus is a miserable car. Its been moslty reliable but it is definitely a penalty box.
LOL!!! Dude, you bought a weapon truck that you are now complaining about the gas mileage on, put a fuel pump in it, still couldn't get it working, took it to a shop who replaced the filter put ANOTHER pump in it, and then you replaced the O2 today hoping it fixes your 80's gas mileage problem. You have a Saturn with a mystery misfire.... Do I need to go digging back through your other threads?
You flood your mom's Focus and then pump the pedal, flooding it worse because you didn't know enough to go WOT to do a flood clear start and the car is a POS? And seriously, you drive a Saturn and call the Focus a penalty box? I've had plenty of seat time in both big guy and the Focus is the nicer car. Yeah, there are nicer cars in the segment in terms of interior (Jetta, 3-series) but a 2011 Focus isn't any more "miserable" than anything else that was in its price bracket.
And I know you have a dislike for Ford products, we've been through that your entire tenure on this board. So it comes as no surprise that you'd try to pass the buck on your own lack of knowledge as to the issue being with the vehicle's manufacturer and not resting solely on your shoulders where it belongs. You flooded the car and didn't know how to do a flood clear. Now you do. Live and learn.
The defrost was turned off after it warmed up and fans kicked back on as needed. Also the chevy has needed a 24 yr old vehicle that's needed a fuel pump and a coil and had a lazy o2 sensor. If you are going to compare a 24 yr old work truck to a 5 yr old focus that has been babied your a fool wouldn't you agree? Her focus has needed more stupid things fixed than my saturn or the truck combined.
The truck is 20 yrs older has a lot more miles and has actually done work. The saturn also older more miles and the slight miss was fixed today. Guess what it was when. The previous owners had the icm replaced the tech didn't clean the grounds. My instructor caught it not me so I won't take credit for it but it's fixed cost me zero dollars and 10 minutes labor.
And to be honest and I'm not being based my saturn is quieter than the focus and smoother. You get alot of engine vibrations through the cabin on that car. And tire and wind noise is ridiculous. As far as interior quality I'll give the focus a slight edge maybe....it squeaks at rattles quite a bit though. Difference is 18,000 car vs 1,700 dollar. The difference it quality is not near far enough apart to justify the cost.
The ram was a daily driver from 95-09 and was a driver for me when needed until I bought the chevy. But yes now it's a garage queen. But it is very capable of driving down the road safety and adequately right now.
I'll be honest my comment about the ford being sensitive was mostly sarcasm figured you were bright enough to pick that up....really I did. But I don't care for most fords. I find them the most tedious to work on and prefer not to. That being said the drive train on the focus is a reliable combo. Just wish it didn't shake so much. Reminds me of my old saturn when it had a broken engine mount.
And I did do clear flood mode but when cranking the car it was obviously providing more fuel than it should been. Yes clear flood mode stops injector pulse but as soon as you let off the gas to do a normal start it should fire up not flood itself. The car is at fault. I understand you can't fathom the idea of a Ford vehicle having a problem but this one does. And when they find it I'll be sure to let you know what it is just so you can realize your not know it all that you think you are.