Toyota knuckles ARE NOT SUPPOSED to leak like that.
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Toyota knuckles ARE NOT SUPPOSED to leak like that.
Originally Posted By: Rix
There is VERY OBVIOUSLY contaminated gear oil.
Sure is Rixxer, sure is there are 2 things that make this rather expected in the Toyota axle,
#1 the level of the self leveling semifluid is above the axle seal, and fluid movement would be from the knuckle to the 3rd member,
Go back to the "Light of Bob thread" a teaspoon of the semi fluid will make a substancial amount of oil turn black,
Rather expected in a way being the seal is only a single lip and facing towards the gear oil,
#2
With the knuckle not being vented, single lip some semi fluid from the knuckle is well rather expected
Now if your seals really go toast it will look like this
There is VERY OBVIOUSLY contaminated gear oil.
Sure is Rixxer, sure is there are 2 things that make this rather expected in the Toyota axle,
#1 the level of the self leveling semifluid is above the axle seal, and fluid movement would be from the knuckle to the 3rd member,
Go back to the "Light of Bob thread" a teaspoon of the semi fluid will make a substancial amount of oil turn black,
Rather expected in a way being the seal is only a single lip and facing towards the gear oil,
#2
With the knuckle not being vented, single lip some semi fluid from the knuckle is well rather expected
Now if your seals really go toast it will look like this
Originally Posted By: IH8mush
With the knuckle not being vented, single lip some semi fluid from the knuckle is well rather expected
NO.
Good lord, NO.
There should NOT be ANY grease contamination of the gear oil in the differential housing.
Properly maintained, the diff oil WILL NOT get contaminated.
EXAMPLE:
NO contamination.
160,000 miles and 8 years later.
With the knuckle not being vented, single lip some semi fluid from the knuckle is well rather expected
NO.
Good lord, NO.
There should NOT be ANY grease contamination of the gear oil in the differential housing.
Properly maintained, the diff oil WILL NOT get contaminated.
EXAMPLE:
NO contamination.
160,000 miles and 8 years later.
Originally Posted By: Rix
Originally Posted By: IH8mush
With the knuckle not being vented, single lip some semi fluid from the knuckle is well rather expected
NO.
Good lord, NO.
There should NOT be ANY grease contamination of the gear oil in the differential housing.
Properly maintained, the diff oil WILL NOT get contaminated.
EXAMPLE:
NO contamination.
160,000 miles and 8 years later.
Uh huh Rixxer, the salesmen have convinced you that you made things all better with changing out a little seal and adding #2 grease to what you think is axle seal failure,
Yep no contamination there, Why because you put in a #2 grease, will not flow, wont get into the 3rd member,
You have been trained to identify a "Normal" discharge of the semifluid grease as axle seal failure
A little puppet on a string, making Toyota sales $$$
Your training here is re education, so you can properly identify this semi fluid grease,,,
Originally Posted By: IH8mush
With the knuckle not being vented, single lip some semi fluid from the knuckle is well rather expected
NO.
Good lord, NO.
There should NOT be ANY grease contamination of the gear oil in the differential housing.
Properly maintained, the diff oil WILL NOT get contaminated.
EXAMPLE:
NO contamination.
160,000 miles and 8 years later.
Uh huh Rixxer, the salesmen have convinced you that you made things all better with changing out a little seal and adding #2 grease to what you think is axle seal failure,
Yep no contamination there, Why because you put in a #2 grease, will not flow, wont get into the 3rd member,
You have been trained to identify a "Normal" discharge of the semifluid grease as axle seal failure
A little puppet on a string, making Toyota sales $$$
Your training here is re education, so you can properly identify this semi fluid grease,,,
Originally Posted By: Rix
Toyota knuckles ARE NOT SUPPOSED to leak like that.
Well Rixxer this axle does not have axle seal failure
So how do you splain the lube discharge found in all other Closed steering axles that have the factory type grease,
Huh?
Please splain Rixxer whats causing this, It is not axle seal failure ?????
You have been trained to think Toyota axles should not look like that from the salesmen,
Listen to a mechanic that has studied this situation from every possible angle,,,
It is not axle seal failure, this is a factory filled axle,
with the proper grade of grease #0
So Rixxer did you ever start that capillary action test ???
Toyota knuckles ARE NOT SUPPOSED to leak like that.
Well Rixxer this axle does not have axle seal failure
So how do you splain the lube discharge found in all other Closed steering axles that have the factory type grease,
Huh?
Please splain Rixxer whats causing this, It is not axle seal failure ?????
You have been trained to think Toyota axles should not look like that from the salesmen,
Listen to a mechanic that has studied this situation from every possible angle,,,
It is not axle seal failure, this is a factory filled axle,
with the proper grade of grease #0
So Rixxer did you ever start that capillary action test ???
You're NOT re-educating.
You're wrong.
Posting pictures of old leaking domestic axles is NOT proof that Toyota axles are SUPPOSED TO LEAK.
The only salesman involved in any of this is you, frank. You're the only one trying to sell something. And to top it of, you're trying to sell it by sayin that there's some great conspiracy in all this, and there just isn't.
To make matters worse, you won't even say what it is you're trying to sell. THEN you're trying to pass stuff off as fact, when it isn't, making broad claims of grandeur that you can't possibly support, with next to NO experience in the matter.
Good grief, this is just nuts.
You're wrong.
Posting pictures of old leaking domestic axles is NOT proof that Toyota axles are SUPPOSED TO LEAK.
The only salesman involved in any of this is you, frank. You're the only one trying to sell something. And to top it of, you're trying to sell it by sayin that there's some great conspiracy in all this, and there just isn't.
To make matters worse, you won't even say what it is you're trying to sell. THEN you're trying to pass stuff off as fact, when it isn't, making broad claims of grandeur that you can't possibly support, with next to NO experience in the matter.
Good grief, this is just nuts.
Originally Posted By: IH8mush
[It is not axle seal failure, this is a factory filled axle,
with the proper grade of grease #0
ONCE AGAIN!!!!!!........ It is NOT "factory fill".
I've had "factory filled" axles apart, and they DID NOT have a #0 grease in them. NOR did they have the same grease in the knuckle as in the wheel bearing.
YOU ARE WRONG.
[It is not axle seal failure, this is a factory filled axle,
with the proper grade of grease #0
ONCE AGAIN!!!!!!........ It is NOT "factory fill".
I've had "factory filled" axles apart, and they DID NOT have a #0 grease in them. NOR did they have the same grease in the knuckle as in the wheel bearing.
YOU ARE WRONG.
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Originally Posted By: Rix
Originally Posted By: IH8mush
[It is not axle seal failure, this is a factory filled axle,
with the proper grade of grease #0
ONCE AGAIN!!!!!!........ It is NOT "factory fill".
I've had "factory filled" axles apart, and they DID NOT have a #0 grease in them. NOR did they have the same grease in the knuckle as in the wheel bearing.
YOU ARE WRONG.
Uh huh Rixxer,
Toyota would not have built something and used 2 different types of grease for the same assembly,
Nope,
Salemen Maybee but not Toyota engineers,
Look at the cover of th˙e book you posted on Moab Jeeper Magazine,
What does it say ?
Toyota Motor Sales,
No , never in all my years of wrenching have I seen 2 types of grease in the same assembly that where not sealed from each other,
Nope, dont happen, only in Make believe Toyota sales land,
Nope,
Now that we have a Cross Sectional line drawing, combined with some precise measurements,
proof, facts, the proof has been in the design of the axle all along, just cant get you to understand it because you have been educated by sales folks,
Need a background in mechanical engineering, grease, drivetrain ,,,
The proof is in the axle design, facts of lubrication and engineering,
No proof from toyota sales, but in this axle, in grease facts,
all day long,,,
Rixxer hows that capillary action test going?????
Originally Posted By: IH8mush
[It is not axle seal failure, this is a factory filled axle,
with the proper grade of grease #0
ONCE AGAIN!!!!!!........ It is NOT "factory fill".
I've had "factory filled" axles apart, and they DID NOT have a #0 grease in them. NOR did they have the same grease in the knuckle as in the wheel bearing.
YOU ARE WRONG.
Uh huh Rixxer,
Toyota would not have built something and used 2 different types of grease for the same assembly,
Nope,
Salemen Maybee but not Toyota engineers,
Look at the cover of th˙e book you posted on Moab Jeeper Magazine,
What does it say ?
Toyota Motor Sales,
No , never in all my years of wrenching have I seen 2 types of grease in the same assembly that where not sealed from each other,
Nope, dont happen, only in Make believe Toyota sales land,
Nope,
Now that we have a Cross Sectional line drawing, combined with some precise measurements,
proof, facts, the proof has been in the design of the axle all along, just cant get you to understand it because you have been educated by sales folks,
Need a background in mechanical engineering, grease, drivetrain ,,,
The proof is in the axle design, facts of lubrication and engineering,
No proof from toyota sales, but in this axle, in grease facts,
all day long,,,
Rixxer hows that capillary action test going?????
Originally Posted By: Rix
You're NOT re-educating.
You're wrong.
Posting pictures of old leaking domestic axles is NOT proof that Toyota axles are SUPPOSED TO LEAK.
The only salesman involved in any of this is you, frank. You're the only one trying to sell something. And to top it of, you're trying to sell it by sayin that there's some great conspiracy in all this, and there just isn't.
To make matters worse, you won't even say what it is you're trying to sell. THEN you're trying to pass stuff off as fact, when it isn't, making broad claims of grandeur that you can't possibly support, with next to NO experience in the matter.
Good grief, this is just nuts.
No offense, but at some point if you feel like you are talking to a wall, why bother? It's obvious you guys aren't making any progress.
You're NOT re-educating.
You're wrong.
Posting pictures of old leaking domestic axles is NOT proof that Toyota axles are SUPPOSED TO LEAK.
The only salesman involved in any of this is you, frank. You're the only one trying to sell something. And to top it of, you're trying to sell it by sayin that there's some great conspiracy in all this, and there just isn't.
To make matters worse, you won't even say what it is you're trying to sell. THEN you're trying to pass stuff off as fact, when it isn't, making broad claims of grandeur that you can't possibly support, with next to NO experience in the matter.
Good grief, this is just nuts.
No offense, but at some point if you feel like you are talking to a wall, why bother? It's obvious you guys aren't making any progress.
Originally Posted By: ltslimjim
No offense, but at some point if you feel like you are talking to a wall, why bother? It's obvious you guys aren't making any progress.
No offence taken, you are absolutely correct.
No offense, but at some point if you feel like you are talking to a wall, why bother? It's obvious you guys aren't making any progress.
No offence taken, you are absolutely correct.
Originally Posted By: ltslimjim
Originally Posted By: Rix
You're NOT re-educating.
You're wrong.
Posting pictures of old leaking domestic axles is NOT proof that Toyota axles are SUPPOSED TO LEAK.
The only salesman involved in any of this is you, frank. You're the only one trying to sell something. And to top it of, you're trying to sell it by sayin that there's some great conspiracy in all this, and there just isn't.
To make matters worse, you won't even say what it is you're trying to sell. THEN you're trying to pass stuff off as fact, when it isn't, making broad claims of grandeur that you can't possibly support, with next to NO experience in the matter.
Good grief, this is just nuts.
No offense, but at some point if you feel like you are talking to a wall, why bother? It's obvious you guys aren't making any progress.
The situation here is that My Rixxer Sales Trained Toyota Tech is Brainwashed,
In order to "Deprogram" a brainwashed person constant, repetitive unrelenting sometimes harsh, presentation of the facts that the mind controlled need,
He has no answer as to why the Toyota axle is discharging lube with no axle seal failure,
93 Chewbacca identified the need for such a grease, one that flows yet doesnt leak,
Perhaps there is some "Grease Experts" and engineer types here on the Bob show, that can way in and help me deprogram this Sales Trained Toyota tech,
In the end, the owner and or mechanic, loose out when following the Toyota sales guide,
This aint right, plain sick and wrong, to recommend a incompatible grease,
There are those in the Toyota aftermarket, and Corporate level that know full well what the situation is here,
I have attempted to contact so called Toyota Engineers at the "Toyota University" in CA, no response,
So I will continue to bring forth information that Rixxer again will have no answer for, none,
Until he comes out of the dark,
I have been deprogramming him for about 6 months now on the4x4network,
Have moved the operation over here to the "Light of Bob"
In hopes to find more "Masters of the Obvious" to help Rixxer get out,,
I have had 1 maybee 2 "Masters" come forward on the network, So gaining help, momentum,
93 Chewbacca has been a great help, identifying a few of these Master of the obvious situations,
And the cross sectional drawing,
So I would encourage any "masters" here to post up, with thoughts observations, input,
This will help, the GMA (Grease Monkey Association) is speaking out against misleading information, just not right to recommend a incompatible grease,,
So hopefully "Bob" wont lock down this thread, till we get to the bottom of it,
Now the way Toyota sales has been able to keep the lid on this "Mushroom Factory" is by insulting, name calling any one who has stepped forward to say hey something is not right here,
So Yes if there is "Moderators" grease specialist, Engineers on this here "Bob" site they need to step in and make a call,
The ones I talk to in person, show them the design, the form of grease,
Say Yep thats a no brainer, So fellow grease monkeys, lets set this straight,
Grease monkeys are not stupid, not ignorant, Rixxer's Trust has been betrayed,
If Any other Car Company was up to the same tricks with the grease game, I would be all over them as well,
Originally Posted By: Rix
You're NOT re-educating.
You're wrong.
Posting pictures of old leaking domestic axles is NOT proof that Toyota axles are SUPPOSED TO LEAK.
The only salesman involved in any of this is you, frank. You're the only one trying to sell something. And to top it of, you're trying to sell it by sayin that there's some great conspiracy in all this, and there just isn't.
To make matters worse, you won't even say what it is you're trying to sell. THEN you're trying to pass stuff off as fact, when it isn't, making broad claims of grandeur that you can't possibly support, with next to NO experience in the matter.
Good grief, this is just nuts.
No offense, but at some point if you feel like you are talking to a wall, why bother? It's obvious you guys aren't making any progress.
The situation here is that My Rixxer Sales Trained Toyota Tech is Brainwashed,
In order to "Deprogram" a brainwashed person constant, repetitive unrelenting sometimes harsh, presentation of the facts that the mind controlled need,
He has no answer as to why the Toyota axle is discharging lube with no axle seal failure,
93 Chewbacca identified the need for such a grease, one that flows yet doesnt leak,
Perhaps there is some "Grease Experts" and engineer types here on the Bob show, that can way in and help me deprogram this Sales Trained Toyota tech,
In the end, the owner and or mechanic, loose out when following the Toyota sales guide,
This aint right, plain sick and wrong, to recommend a incompatible grease,
There are those in the Toyota aftermarket, and Corporate level that know full well what the situation is here,
I have attempted to contact so called Toyota Engineers at the "Toyota University" in CA, no response,
So I will continue to bring forth information that Rixxer again will have no answer for, none,
Until he comes out of the dark,
I have been deprogramming him for about 6 months now on the4x4network,
Have moved the operation over here to the "Light of Bob"
In hopes to find more "Masters of the Obvious" to help Rixxer get out,,
I have had 1 maybee 2 "Masters" come forward on the network, So gaining help, momentum,
93 Chewbacca has been a great help, identifying a few of these Master of the obvious situations,
And the cross sectional drawing,
So I would encourage any "masters" here to post up, with thoughts observations, input,
This will help, the GMA (Grease Monkey Association) is speaking out against misleading information, just not right to recommend a incompatible grease,,
So hopefully "Bob" wont lock down this thread, till we get to the bottom of it,
Now the way Toyota sales has been able to keep the lid on this "Mushroom Factory" is by insulting, name calling any one who has stepped forward to say hey something is not right here,
So Yes if there is "Moderators" grease specialist, Engineers on this here "Bob" site they need to step in and make a call,
The ones I talk to in person, show them the design, the form of grease,
Say Yep thats a no brainer, So fellow grease monkeys, lets set this straight,
Grease monkeys are not stupid, not ignorant, Rixxer's Trust has been betrayed,
If Any other Car Company was up to the same tricks with the grease game, I would be all over them as well,
Tricks.
lol
lol
"To make matters worse, you won't even say what it is you're trying to sell."
Rixxer,
When I started on this, recognized this grease for what it was , a form of grease,
Went into town Talked to Tony at Parker Toyota in CDA
He Told me this grease was "Private"
Wow,
I have never heard of a "Private" grease, so began looking into what this was,
Turns out Tony was dead on, this grease is "Private" he did not lie to me to get rid of me as the Toyota propagandist have told me,
Private,
Of course Tony could have told me the grease was "Intellectual property" or "Trade Secret" or "Proprietary"
But no he said "Privacy act"
He was speaking with a grease monkey and used terms that he was sure I would understand,
On the4x4network I have provided a Ton of info, about this stuff,
None of it says "Toyota on it" so you disregard, insult and call me a liar,
Well, No more,
Rixxer,
When I started on this, recognized this grease for what it was , a form of grease,
Went into town Talked to Tony at Parker Toyota in CDA
He Told me this grease was "Private"
Wow,
I have never heard of a "Private" grease, so began looking into what this was,
Turns out Tony was dead on, this grease is "Private" he did not lie to me to get rid of me as the Toyota propagandist have told me,
Private,
Of course Tony could have told me the grease was "Intellectual property" or "Trade Secret" or "Proprietary"
But no he said "Privacy act"
He was speaking with a grease monkey and used terms that he was sure I would understand,
On the4x4network I have provided a Ton of info, about this stuff,
None of it says "Toyota on it" so you disregard, insult and call me a liar,
Well, No more,
Originally Posted By: Rix
Tricks.
lol
Yes it is referred to as the "Grease Game"
Toyota has a unfair advantage,
The Techs are brainwashed, to young to know about this form of grease,,
To proud and To trusting of Toyota, to admit they have been "Tricked" about grease,
Tricks.
lol
Yes it is referred to as the "Grease Game"
Toyota has a unfair advantage,
The Techs are brainwashed, to young to know about this form of grease,,
To proud and To trusting of Toyota, to admit they have been "Tricked" about grease,
There is no brainwashing, escept what you're attempting to do.
You aren't that much older than me, and you DON'T know as much as about Toyota and these axles as I do.
And they didn't use #0 in the knuckles OR wheel bearings. They didn't even use the same type of grease in the 2.
AND I know plenty about the TYPE of grease you're trying to sell. Even though you won't way what exactly yours IS, if it's like the rest of the greases in it's class, there is no good reason to use it, and several good reasons to use something else.
grease game indeed.
You aren't that much older than me, and you DON'T know as much as about Toyota and these axles as I do.
And they didn't use #0 in the knuckles OR wheel bearings. They didn't even use the same type of grease in the 2.
AND I know plenty about the TYPE of grease you're trying to sell. Even though you won't way what exactly yours IS, if it's like the rest of the greases in it's class, there is no good reason to use it, and several good reasons to use something else.
grease game indeed.
I don't really care about tony parker toyota, either.
My guess is they just wanted you to go away.
Besides the fact that you HAVEN'T provided any real information on the 'network, you should leave that there, and not bring it here.
My guess is they just wanted you to go away.
Besides the fact that you HAVEN'T provided any real information on the 'network, you should leave that there, and not bring it here.
Originally Posted By: Rix
I don't really care about tony parker toyota, either.
My guess is they just wanted you to go away.
Besides the fact that you HAVEN'T provided any real information on the 'network, you should leave that there, and not bring it here.
What do you mean no "Real information"?
Army Corps of Engineers ?
Texaco studies, with the Rail Road ?
This is the real deal pal, big time, it doesnt say Toyota on it so you disregard,
This is why I call it what it is, Brainwashing,
[censored] just the "Rover information" should be enough, same design
Same semi fluid grease grade,
[censored] if I took the Rover Grease stuck it in a Yota brought it to your Toyota shop, they would sell me axle seals,
Is there a specialist on this here "Bob show that can make the call here ?"
I don't really care about tony parker toyota, either.
My guess is they just wanted you to go away.
Besides the fact that you HAVEN'T provided any real information on the 'network, you should leave that there, and not bring it here.
What do you mean no "Real information"?
Army Corps of Engineers ?
Texaco studies, with the Rail Road ?
This is the real deal pal, big time, it doesnt say Toyota on it so you disregard,
This is why I call it what it is, Brainwashing,
[censored] just the "Rover information" should be enough, same design
Same semi fluid grease grade,
[censored] if I took the Rover Grease stuck it in a Yota brought it to your Toyota shop, they would sell me axle seals,
Is there a specialist on this here "Bob show that can make the call here ?"
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Rover is NOT the "same design".
Similair. Not "the same".
Similair. Not "the same".
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