Sorry to post in an old thread but your right.Interesting. Although I like Quaker state, I'm probably going to take a hard line against these offerings like I have with rgt. If they don't market these oils any better than current qs offerings, they'll make some great Auto zone clearance oils in a few years. The qs syn hm might do alright, as long as it maintains a lower premium than it's Pennzoil counterpart, but they've already discontinued qsud euro once....