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Part Number: 51515
UPC Number: 765809515154
Principal Application: Chrysler Family of Cars/Trucks (57-70), Ford Family of Cars/Trucks (57-00), Mazda Trucks (94-00), Toyota Landcruiser (71-96) - (Two Quart version is 51773)
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Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 5.178
Outer Diameter: 3.660
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=13/23
Burst Pressure-PSI: 290
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 19
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.834 2.462 0.200
Part Number: 51515
UPC Number: 765809515154
Principal Application: Chrysler Family of Cars/Trucks (57-70), Ford Family of Cars/Trucks (57-00), Mazda Trucks (94-00), Toyota Landcruiser (71-96) - (Two Quart version is 51773)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 5.178
Outer Diameter: 3.660
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=13/23
Burst Pressure-PSI: 290
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 19
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.834 2.462 0.200
The above is a wix 51515 or Napa Gold 1515 its huge.
look at the specs for the 1515 above and compare with the OEM converted to its wix equivalent bellow.
I think you could use it, if you have the room and an extra qt of oil.
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Part Number: 51215
UPC Number: 765809512153
Principal Application: Buell, Harley-Davidson Motorcycles, Ford, Mazda (03-08) (For chrome version, use 51225)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.404
Outer Diameter Top: 2.921
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Burst Pressure-PSI: 325
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 24
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.734 2.430 0.226
look at the specs for the 1515 above and compare with the OEM converted to its wix equivalent bellow.
I think you could use it, if you have the room and an extra qt of oil.
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Part Number: 51215
UPC Number: 765809512153
Principal Application: Buell, Harley-Davidson Motorcycles, Ford, Mazda (03-08) (For chrome version, use 51225)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.404
Outer Diameter Top: 2.921
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Burst Pressure-PSI: 325
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 24
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.734 2.430 0.226
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If you can only handle longer:
51516
Part Number: 51516
UPC Number: 765809515161
Principal Application: Ford/Lincoln/Mercury (81-08), Chrysler/Jeep (02-08), Mazda Trucks (94-07)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 4.828
Outer Diameter Top: 2.921
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=14/31
Burst Pressure-PSI: 275
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 20
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.734 2.430 0.226
51516
Part Number: 51516
UPC Number: 765809515161
Principal Application: Ford/Lincoln/Mercury (81-08), Chrysler/Jeep (02-08), Mazda Trucks (94-07)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 4.828
Outer Diameter Top: 2.921
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=14/31
Burst Pressure-PSI: 275
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 20
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.734 2.430 0.226
Thank you, I will check these filters out.
I was also told the Motorcraft FL 400 would work. Any thoughts on that? By the way this is for a 2.3 Ford/Mazda engine. I converted over from cartridge filter to spin on using Mazda parts. It appears to have plenty of room for length and width.
I was also told the Motorcraft FL 400 would work. Any thoughts on that? By the way this is for a 2.3 Ford/Mazda engine. I converted over from cartridge filter to spin on using Mazda parts. It appears to have plenty of room for length and width.
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The one I mentioned (51516) is the equivalent to an fl400S MotorCraft. It's a longer PH3614/FL910.
The 3/4-16 thread and (approx) 2.8/2.4 gasket size is the most popular combination on the planet. Used by VW/AUDI, Volvo, Delorean, Mopar, Ford, and a buttload of other engines. Some go with a 2.4/2.2 gasket like (I think) Toyota.
Next time you're in the parts store, grab a FL1A and a FL910/FL400S and hold the gaskets together. The difference, within a couple of 0.1's is the can and length of the can. The gasket on the FL1A is inboard a bit. The gasket on the teacup size is on the outer extreme.
You then realize that the thread and gasket are constants on a good many filters and then you're into a given can diameter, indexed over various lengths. For the 2.7-2.8 gasket diameter, you can reason that 2.9x will be your smallest can.
If you want to, x'ref all of the numbers below to Wix. Many won't be distinctly different in Wix ..and some may not x'ref at all. Donaldson appears to offer 43 different 3/4-16 threaded lube filters.
http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/index.asp
If you want to see them in Donaldson ...
https://dynamic.donaldson.com/webc/WebSt...n_Company_Store
P169071
P502015
P502016
P502019
P502020
P502022
P502024
P502069
P502107
P550006
P550008
P550078
P550095
P550226
P550227
P550299
P550318
P550335
P550400
P550572
P550580
P550711
P550715
P550882
P550963
P550971-288-140
P551042
P551201
P551251
P551267
P551268
P551300
P551603
P551763
P551784
P552290
P552430
P553411
P554403
P554407
P554408
P554770
P557780
The 3/4-16 thread and (approx) 2.8/2.4 gasket size is the most popular combination on the planet. Used by VW/AUDI, Volvo, Delorean, Mopar, Ford, and a buttload of other engines. Some go with a 2.4/2.2 gasket like (I think) Toyota.
Next time you're in the parts store, grab a FL1A and a FL910/FL400S and hold the gaskets together. The difference, within a couple of 0.1's is the can and length of the can. The gasket on the FL1A is inboard a bit. The gasket on the teacup size is on the outer extreme.
You then realize that the thread and gasket are constants on a good many filters and then you're into a given can diameter, indexed over various lengths. For the 2.7-2.8 gasket diameter, you can reason that 2.9x will be your smallest can.
If you want to, x'ref all of the numbers below to Wix. Many won't be distinctly different in Wix ..and some may not x'ref at all. Donaldson appears to offer 43 different 3/4-16 threaded lube filters.
http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/index.asp
If you want to see them in Donaldson ...
https://dynamic.donaldson.com/webc/WebSt...n_Company_Store
P169071
P502015
P502016
P502019
P502020
P502022
P502024
P502069
P502107
P550006
P550008
P550078
P550095
P550226
P550227
P550299
P550318
P550335
P550400
P550572
P550580
P550711
P550715
P550882
P550963
P550971-288-140
P551042
P551201
P551251
P551267
P551268
P551300
P551603
P551763
P551784
P552290
P552430
P553411
P554403
P554407
P554408
P554770
P557780
FL910.
Oversize FL400S. Same size but longer. This is what I would use if I had room.
The FL-1A might fit but you would have to comfirm. It is both fatter and taller.
Oversize FL400S. Same size but longer. This is what I would use if I had room.
The FL-1A might fit but you would have to comfirm. It is both fatter and taller.
Heres a comparison between the 1515 and the 1516, the pure one is the size of the 1515, the 1516 was my last filter.
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Since I had a FL-400s here for my ranger I just used that.
Going by the dipstick best I could (the sticks on these cars are horade to read)I had to add about 1/2 quart more. Which seemed about right. I do have a question. Since the oil filter is mounted straight up and down I don't have to worry about oil running out of the filter. Will having the silcon valve that the FL-400S has casuse any problems? I can't think of any reason myself. Does anyone eles have a thought?
Thanks
Going by the dipstick best I could (the sticks on these cars are horade to read)I had to add about 1/2 quart more. Which seemed about right. I do have a question. Since the oil filter is mounted straight up and down I don't have to worry about oil running out of the filter. Will having the silcon valve that the FL-400S has casuse any problems? I can't think of any reason myself. Does anyone eles have a thought?
Thanks
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No problem, mounted vertical or not, the filter without anti drain back valves will drain the oil in the journals and pathways back to the sump through the filter, need the anti drain either way its mounted, unless you have a valve built into the block. Fl400S is a good filter same specs as the last Napa gold I used.
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In vertical mounts, some man's go without an ADBV. The reason being is that once the top of the media is exposed, any siphoning is stopped. The filter cannot empty. Now these engine probably have very little "oil column" in front of the filter. The spec's on most ADBV are NOT to hold indefinitely. They only have to slow the reverse flow.
no problem with suing the FL400S. the only issue with the fl400 over the fl910 is that on the foci they hang down to far and can break off, causing non warranty engine failures.
The filter in this case a 2.3 Mercury Milan is protected by the the frame rail coming across the front. And my car also has the under side protected by a plastic shroud, with covers to un-bolt to get at the filter and drain plug. Kind of a pain but sure keeps the under side clean during the winter months.
Thanks to everyone for sharing your knowledge.
Thanks to everyone for sharing your knowledge.
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