Originally Posted By: meborder
Call what ever you want.
you weren't the one who had to scrape twice.
i don't use blue juice anymore, i switched to red. yes, that probably would have worked, but if it froze to the windshield then i'd be stuck waiting for it to thaw.
and to address the "no possible way" comment:
http://www.wunderground.com/history/airp...eq_statename=NA
notice at 6:30 how the dew point and the temperature were the same.
i really don't care if you believe me or not. the truth is what it is. and those that know me know that i won't lie to save my own bacon, let alone for dramatic effect hoping to impress a bunch of people on the 'net i'll never meet.
have a fantastic day, sir!
Originally Posted By: linksep
I call [censored] or Cheap-[censored]. There's no possible scenario where 15 min at -8F is long enough to cause a situation where a second scraping was required because even cheap $1.29/gal undiluted blue washer fluid couldn't clear the super minor frost that could accumulate in 15 minutes. I'm talking midwest blue washer fluid with alcohol in it (and typically a -20F or -25F temp rating), not that Kalifornia blue water or the kind you make at home from tap-water and a blue dye tablet...
My post came off as a personal attack and for that I apologize. On the other hand you allowed your OCD to control you with no attempt of you controlling your OCD. My daily drivers (7 most recent cars) have been parked outside in MN for 15 of the last 18 winters. Are there days where I let them warm up for as much as an hour? Yep. Are there days where I use windshield washer squirters half a dozen times or more in the first mile of driving? Yep. Sometimes I "start & go" sometimes I warm it up, sometimes I use a block-heater, sometimes I don't (cars that don't have them). In 18 MN winters, not once have I needed to scrape my windshield twice..(and I currently drive a POS Saturn that requires 45 or so minutes of highway driving to put out usable heat...I have owned the car since new, complained about warmup time under warranty, and replaced the thermostat because the dealer wouldn't with no effect on warmup or max idle temp of 160F during cold weather...)
To the OP, you're fine doing what makes you comfortable. 45-60 seconds is plenty of time to get oil flowing (as long as the oil hasn't turned to Jello from -40F to -50F air temps.