Bill Targets Oil Drain Intervals

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Originally Posted By: Kestas
Calm down. It's not as bad as you think. They only want to require the oil change places to inform the owner what the manufacturer recommended drain intervals are. Nothing in the bill forces vehicle owners to extend their drain intervals. It's no different than forcing manufacturers to display the EPA mileage rating on new vehicles.


Bah! You and your thought-out, factual post based on information have no place here. Begone!
 
Originally Posted By: Kestas
Calm down. It's not as bad as you think. They only want to require the oil change places to inform the owner what the manufacturer recommended drain intervals are. Nothing in the bill forces vehicle owners to extend their drain intervals. It's no different than forcing manufacturers to display the EPA mileage rating on new vehicles.


But you're accepting their premise that it's OK for the gummint to tell you how often you should change your oil. This is how creeping socialism advances its agenda.
 
Originally Posted By: turtlevette
I don't see anything wrong with that law. Its an incredible waste to do 3k changes and the quick lubes pressure you into it.



I don't agree with any legislation that infringes upon an individual or corporations ability to speak. Prohibiting language other than what is in the manual is draconian. There are many other ways to go about this....
 
Originally Posted By: Gasbuggy
This is why I hate democrats.


+1

This bill has less to do with protecting the consumer and everything to do with resource conservation. While resource conservation is not a bad thing, there are too many variables involved during the interval to mandate changes to occur only within what a manufacturer recommends (such as sludged engine, stop-and-go, etc.).
 
Originally Posted By: Kestas
Calm down. It's not as bad as you think. They only want to require the oil change places to inform the owner what the manufacturer recommended drain intervals are. Nothing in the bill forces vehicle owners to extend their drain intervals. It's no different than forcing manufacturers to display the EPA mileage rating on new vehicles.


Don't spoil their fun with the truth and facts. Of course people who can read see it is something good, too many shops tell people they need things they don't. This means they have to tell the trusting people, who say yes to everything a mechanic says, the car maker recommends this interval. This is why I no longer am a repub. Big old made up unrelated stories about government control when it isn't there at all. Seems a lot don't read what they are trying to criticize. There is no infringement of rights, the shop can say whatever it wants, but they need also to tell customers the recommended interval. Sounds like another good law to protect consumers. I would vote for it, who wouldn't.
 
Originally Posted By: CT8
Originally Posted By: Gasbuggy
This is why I hate democrats.
California is full of them .


Yep. Such a pox on a beautiful state.
 
I think further educating uninformed individuals is a great thing. Obviously everyone here on BITOG knows all about extended drain intervals and the difference between conventional and synthetic oil.

Its more so the people who pull into a quick lube and never get out of the car. I've changed oil for people that cannot comprehend going beyond 3K. At the end of the day, California cannot control our OCI, especially people here on BITOG.
 
Originally Posted By: Kestas
Calm down. It's not as bad as you think. They only want to require the oil change places to inform the owner what the manufacturer recommended drain intervals are. Nothing in the bill forces vehicle owners to extend their drain intervals. It's no different than forcing manufacturers to display the EPA mileage rating on new vehicles.



Or people could just read their owners manual to determine the appropriate interval.
Real statesmen would be working on substantive issues, such as tackling water issues in a meaningful manner throughout the state.
 
Originally Posted By: bbhero
This is funny dlundblad.. Telling Merk he'd have run a 5w30 10k miles.


Varnish, aahhhhhhhh!
 
Extended drain intervals in Europe have not worked out well. In particular, high performance engines experience everything from early rod bearing failure, rapid timing chain wear, to prodigious sludge. It ain't just varnish!

No thanks.

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I believe that if you arent capable of reading or educating yourself on proper oil change intervals you deserve to get ripped off by quick lube places. Let alone the fact you go to a quick lube in the first place..

I think the government knows as much aboutvoil as theaverage person not the avg bitoger...also cars have different needs, no same year and models have the same needs/usage/intervals. The govt should spend their money on improving education and healthcare instead. What next the govt wants to tell me what i need to eat for dinner every night?
 
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You know, there are just enough stupid people in the world, who'll consume 64oz of soft drinks in one sitting, or change their oil every 3k miles, that we need the guvmint to protect us from them, and the unscrupulous businesses that prey on them.

Think about diabetes' cost to society. Not to mention the unnecessary oil recycling.
 
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Originally Posted By: Rolla07
I believe that if you arent capable of reading or educating yourself on proper oil change intervals you deserve to get ripped off by quick lube places. Let alone the fact you go to a quick lube in the first place..

I think the government knows as much aboutvoil as theaverage person not the avg bitoger...also cars have different needs, no same year and models have the same needs/usage/intervals. The govt should spend their money on improving education and healthcare instead. What next the govt wants to tell me what i need to eat for dinner every night?


If you lived in NYC, they would tell you how big your Coca-Cola can be.
 
I change my own oil . Will be DA*&^%$%%ed if they will tell me how to run my vehicles here in Illinois the 2nd worse state for libtards in the union , California being #1
 
I don't think this bill is a bad idea.

My only issue is quick lubes use cheap filters that can only safely last 3,000-5,000 miles. 3K-5K is their maximum life.

What good is that synthetic oil & 10K mile manufacturer recommended drain interval when you get a $2 filter rated for 3,000 miles?
 
Originally Posted By: Nitronoise
I change my own oil . Will be DA*&^%$%%ed if they will tell me how to run my vehicles here in Illinois the 2nd worse state for libtards in the union , California being #1


Did you actually read the bill?

"Service providers would be prohibited from advising intervals shorter than those listed in the owner’s manual, for example, when placing a sticker on the windshield indicating when the next oil change should occur. Installers would also need to list the oil grade and viscosity that the original equipment manufacturer recommends for the vehicle “in order to prevent deceiving or misleading consumers with unnecessary and costly oil changes,” states Senate Bill 778, submitted by Sen. Ben Allen (D-Santa Monica)."
 
The nanny state in action.

Want to know a fact? Every auto sold has a manual that comes with the car. In that manual, consumers will find what maintenance is required on their car. It's not up to the govt to mandate a law that requires a quick lube to inform a customer of their interval, when that same customer could/should have opened up their owners manual and got that information.

There are already way too many laws on the books, and with this, proof that "law makers" have too much times on their hands if dealing with such foolish proposals.
 
I think the best way to avoid such laws is to avoid being part of the problem. From what I have observed, many BITOGers are part of the problem.

That is MY observation. It may not be yours.

Just because you can afford to waste and it makes you feel better, should you?
 
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