Originally Posted By: Mykl
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
People don't care about a lot of things. Most couldn't care less about the engine and tranny dipstick, real coolant temp. and other gauges. Most just want a big dummy light, actually most would probably want an extra LSD screen instead of all those pesky lights.
Going after the lowest common denominator is hardly a proof of a superior design. In practice, it proves to achieve the opposite. That is, unneeded system complexity, additional cost for initial purchase cost of operation and servicing afterwards, just so that people can be even dumber behind the steering wheel.
Then feel free to buy the cheapest, lowest tech vehicle you can find and enjoy it to the maximum extent possible. I'm sure you can find a '60's Mustang somewhere in decent enough shape made entirely of components that can all easily be rebuilt in your garage. If you want something more modern a Geo Metro is pretty simple, although it does have fuel injection and air conditioning.
Objectively, a gearbox that can swap gears faster than you can move your arm packaged with more gears allowing for greater fuel economy is a superior design. That you prefer more involvement behind the wheel doesn't change the numbers.
Well, to judge a superior design, you have to compare them to the same criteria. We don't all have the same criteria we judge a transmission with, so you can't say an ATX is a better design overall. An ATX is better in many measures, but so is an MTX, just depends which criteria are important to you.
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
People don't care about a lot of things. Most couldn't care less about the engine and tranny dipstick, real coolant temp. and other gauges. Most just want a big dummy light, actually most would probably want an extra LSD screen instead of all those pesky lights.
Going after the lowest common denominator is hardly a proof of a superior design. In practice, it proves to achieve the opposite. That is, unneeded system complexity, additional cost for initial purchase cost of operation and servicing afterwards, just so that people can be even dumber behind the steering wheel.
Then feel free to buy the cheapest, lowest tech vehicle you can find and enjoy it to the maximum extent possible. I'm sure you can find a '60's Mustang somewhere in decent enough shape made entirely of components that can all easily be rebuilt in your garage. If you want something more modern a Geo Metro is pretty simple, although it does have fuel injection and air conditioning.
Objectively, a gearbox that can swap gears faster than you can move your arm packaged with more gears allowing for greater fuel economy is a superior design. That you prefer more involvement behind the wheel doesn't change the numbers.
Well, to judge a superior design, you have to compare them to the same criteria. We don't all have the same criteria we judge a transmission with, so you can't say an ATX is a better design overall. An ATX is better in many measures, but so is an MTX, just depends which criteria are important to you.