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#2052892 - 10/20/10 05:52 PM Re: Does Tire Shine Speed Up Dry Rot? [Re: Lurch]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
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Loc: Great Lakes
Originally Posted By: Lurch


I plan to apply it at least two or three times a year, which will hopefully be enough to keep my tires healthy. I like how the stuff looks and how the tires now repel mud better.

The purpose of this stuff is not to keep tires healthy. It is purely for looks. And if you want it to remain looking good (black and shiny) you will have to apply it every week or every couple of weeks at least.

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#2052924 - 10/20/10 06:24 PM Re: Does Tire Shine Speed Up Dry Rot? [Re: Lurch]
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Registered: 11/16/06
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I found the best product is 303 Aerospace Protectant...it's not greasy or too shiny and is designed as a water-based UV protectant that seems to last. I use it on most plastic/rubber stuff on the car. http://www.303products.com/
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#2053260 - 10/21/10 04:02 AM Re: Does Tire Shine Speed Up Dry Rot? [Re: Quattro Pete]
Lurch Offline


Registered: 07/30/09
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Loc: TN
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete

The purpose of this stuff is not to keep tires healthy. It is purely for looks.


What I meant was keep them from dry rotting, if in fact they would dry rot if I began using tire shine and then stopped altogether.
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#2053306 - 10/21/10 07:04 AM Re: Does Tire Shine Speed Up Dry Rot? [Re: Lurch]
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
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I don't think the tire dressing would prevent dry rot. Based on my own experience, I'm generally in the camp that believes that many products promote rot (or cracking, weather checking, whatever you want to call it). I rarely use any dressings anymore. But I will ocassionally, and I only use water-based dressings. I have a few bottles of Michelin's tire dressing. It says right on the bottle that Michelin approves of the dressing on tires (of course they do, it's their own brand). But I don't know what's in most dressings (MSDSes usually don't list non-haz materials), so I can only go on faith that a dressing will be "safe", without knowing what's really in it. So if a tire manufacturer endorses a product, then I figure it's safe enough. If Goodyear or Yokohama or any other tire brand marketed their own dressing, I'd try that too. The Michelin stuff is near impossible to find, unfortunately.

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#2053319 - 10/21/10 07:45 AM Re: Does Tire Shine Speed Up Dry Rot? [Re: Lurch]
rangerfan24 Offline


Registered: 06/26/08
Posts: 214
Loc: New York
You cannot say do tire shines cause dry rot. Thats to broad a grouping of tire shines. It depends on the shine. Anything that contains hydrocarbons, to my understanding, will pull plasticizers from the tire and it will loose its flexibility. However anything water based, will not contains hydrocarbon solvents and will likely contain a conditioner that will do the opposite and help restore tires. Water based shines are usually milky white while hydrocarbon based shines are greasy and clear. Look for something that doesnt contain hydrocarbons and is milky white.Try mothers fx. Good luck ;-)

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#2053365 - 10/21/10 08:41 AM Re: Does Tire Shine Speed Up Dry Rot? [Re: Lurch]
Lurch Offline


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The stuff I have, made by Turtle Wax, comes in a see through green bottle and looks milky white and is probably water based..
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#2053393 - 10/21/10 09:21 AM Re: Does Tire Shine Speed Up Dry Rot? [Re: Lurch]
rangerfan24 Offline


Registered: 06/26/08
Posts: 214
Loc: New York
Its a liquid correct? Not a gel? If its milky you should be good to go and it wont hurt your tires at all. Spray a little on the tire or some other surface to double check that its a milky liquid. Also look at the back of the bottle to triple check and make sure it doesnt say "contains petroleum solvents or hydrocarbon solvents" or something like that.

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#2054691 - 10/22/10 02:31 PM Re: Does Tire Shine Speed Up Dry Rot? [Re: SERonBLAST]
grampi Offline


Registered: 10/08/06
Posts: 6981
Loc: OH
Originally Posted By: SERonBLAST
Silicone is in most products and will wreck dashboards and probably tires.
It does look nice and wet but in the long run it can do more bad than good.


Bingo! Any silicone based products will cause dry rotting. That's why I use Stoner's More Shine Less Time on my tires. It's not silicone based, it won't cause dry rotting, it looks good, and lasts a long time.

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#2054693 - 10/22/10 02:33 PM Re: Does Tire Shine Speed Up Dry Rot? [Re: Drew2000]
grampi Offline


Registered: 10/08/06
Posts: 6981
Loc: OH
Originally Posted By: Drew2000
I found the best product is 303 Aerospace Protectant...it's not greasy or too shiny and is designed as a water-based UV protectant that seems to last. I use it on most plastic/rubber stuff on the car. http://www.303products.com/


I've found 303 to work well on the interior, but it attracts too much dirt and dust to use on the tires. Stoner's More Shine Less Time is much better for tires.

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#2054855 - 10/22/10 06:51 PM Re: Does Tire Shine Speed Up Dry Rot? [Re: Lurch]
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 14505
Loc: Top of Virginia
Is the Stoner's product petroleum-based?

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#2055218 - 10/23/10 06:21 AM Re: Does Tire Shine Speed Up Dry Rot? [Re: Hokiefyd]
grampi Offline


Registered: 10/08/06
Posts: 6981
Loc: OH
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Is the Stoner's product petroleum-based?


No

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#2055898 - 10/23/10 11:49 PM Re: Does Tire Shine Speed Up Dry Rot? [Re: Lurch]
SkyGod Offline


Registered: 10/12/10
Posts: 134
Loc: Ohio
yes..test it yourself.
add tire shine to the rear tires and leave fronts alone.
I notice dry rot quicker on the shined tires.
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#2059454 - 10/27/10 09:21 AM Re: Does Tire Shine Speed Up Dry Rot? [Re: Quattro Pete]
SatinSilver Offline


Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 7957
Loc: Ohio
I also noticed the tires would turn a brown color after using Armor All. Thats on top of the dry rotting.

I like the Stoners More Shine. I havn't noticed any browning or dry rotting. Good durability also. Doesn't fling the dressing either. Soaks right into the tire like it should.

Duragloss makes a silicone free dressing also. Buts it more expensive. Around $8 while the Stoners is around $4.5. Michelin even makes their own tire shine. It even mentions how other protectants can cause problems like the ones mentioned in this thread.
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#2059744 - 10/27/10 01:45 PM Re: Does Tire Shine Speed Up Dry Rot? [Re: Jim_Truett]
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Registered: 01/15/06
Posts: 600
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: Jim_Truett
Due to ozone damage and drying/hardening/cracking of the rubber I would not trust my life to 15 year old tires at freeway speeds. To the best of my knowledge the NHTSA does not list a maximum age for tires, but I believe industry recommended maximum tire age is around 6 years.

Tire Rack link, one of many


Agreed, 15 years is way too long to be running a tire. Industry consensus seems to be up to 6 years for extreme weather, and possibly as long as 10 years under the absolute ideal conditions for tire rubber, measured from the date of manufacture, not the date put into service. I personally would not go longer than about 8 years, and only if visual inspections show no obvious signs of deterioration. For a low speed city only vehicle that would never see a freeway, I'm sure in many cases you could get away with 10 years at best.
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