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Amazon Oil Coming?

Posted By: Virtus_Probi

Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/04/18 03:16 PM

Just noticed that Amazonbasics 0W20 and 5W30 are on the dexos1 Gen 2 list, but I don't see them on their website yet.
Same license numbers as some varieties of Mag1, STP, and Supertech synthetics.

https://www.centerforqa.com/dexos-brand2015/
Posted By: JeffKeryk

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/04/18 03:18 PM

Why not? Bezos wants to take over the world, and he just might do it.
The oil will track your whereabouts, no doubt.
Posted By: Virtus_Probi

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/04/18 03:20 PM

Originally Posted By: JeffKeryk
Why not? Bezos wants to take over the world, and he just might do it.
The oil will track your whereabouts, no doubt.

That sounds more like Facebook oil to me...
Posted By: Oily_Thing

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/04/18 03:25 PM

Amazon will automatically send you a quart when your dipstick gets below half a mark.
Posted By: nap

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/04/18 03:32 PM

Hopefully Microsoft wonít come with a W10, complete with cloud based OLM..... laugh
Posted By: paulri

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/04/18 03:39 PM

And automatically "update" your oil whenever it feels you need it done, whether you wanted it to or not. frown

Originally Posted By: nap
Hopefully Microsoft wonít come with a W10, complete with cloud based OLM..... laugh
Posted By: itguy08

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/04/18 03:49 PM

Originally Posted By: JeffKeryk
Why not? Bezos wants to take over the world, and he just might do it.


I hope the [censored] not. And I hardly use them to prevent that from happening.
Posted By: dogememe

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/04/18 03:52 PM

Nice, another quality Warren oil.
Posted By: Mr Nice

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/04/18 03:54 PM

Another reason to buy Amazon stock.

Up 40% YTD. I love Jeff. smile
Posted By: JohnnyJohnson

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/04/18 04:27 PM

Originally Posted By: JeffKeryk
Why not? Bezos wants to take over the world, and he just might do it.
The oil will track your whereabouts, no doubt.


When being the richest just isn't enough!
Posted By: hallstevenson

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/04/18 04:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Just noticed that Amazonbasics 0W20 and 5W30 are on the dexos1 Gen 2 list, but I don't see them on their website yet.
Same license numbers as some varieties of Mag1, STP, and Supertech synthetics.

https://www.centerforqa.com/dexos-brand2015/


I saw that the other week or so and just presumed they were already selling it. Didn't bother to check, nor do I care enough to.... I was surprised that no one here had mentioned it before or tried it yet but it makes sense since it's not actually available.
Posted By: deven

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/04/18 04:56 PM

Alexa when is my next oil change?
Posted By: CR94

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/04/18 05:27 PM

Originally Posted By: dogememe
Nice, another quality Warren oil.
Which Warren? There are two Warren outfits blending private-label oils, y'know.
Posted By: racer12306

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/05/18 12:04 PM

Quick Google search after seeing this thread found a variety of AmazonBasic oil including conventional and synthetic in all of the popular grades.

https://engineoil.api.org/Directory/EolcsResultsDetail?accountId=1&companyId=10297&resultsUrl=%2FDirectory%2FEolcsResults%3FaccountId%3D1&Products-page=12&Products-orderBy=BrandName-desc

This also shows it's "sister" oils.
Posted By: Shannow

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/05/18 12:12 PM

Dang, my Christmas holiday project was to write an e-book on "how to choose your oil off Amazon".

Got half way through it and work got in the way.

Too late now.
Posted By: wemay

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/05/18 12:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Just noticed that Amazonbasics 0W20 and 5W30 are on the dexos1 Gen 2 list, but I don't see them on their website yet.
Same license numbers as some varieties of Mag1, STP, and Supertech synthetics.

https://www.centerforqa.com/dexos-brand2015/


Good catch. Wonder when this will show up for sale and what the pricing may be. Bezos may want aggressive pricing to elbow his way into the market real time. If so, I'll buy.
Posted By: mrdctaylor

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/05/18 03:01 PM

If it is priced right, I'd be all over it. But I'll bet I can still get better deals locally between clearances and rebates. If I can have a good quality synthetic oil prime shipped to my house for a great price that means I can let me stockpile of clearance oil dwindle. :-)
Posted By: nthach

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/05/18 06:59 PM

AmazonBasics is for the most part, the best bang for the buck for things like cables.

If this oil is the same as ST and the others WPP bottles up for other private labels, it'll be fine.
Posted By: JustN89

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/05/18 07:02 PM

Originally Posted By: mrdctaylor
If it is priced right, I'd be all over it. But I'll bet I can still get better deals locally between clearances and rebates. If I can have a good quality synthetic oil prime shipped to my house for a great price that means I can let me stockpile of clearance oil dwindle. :-)

If recent trends mean anything, I'd expect this to be listed at the same price as SuperTech at Walmart.
Posted By: oil_film_movies

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/06/18 12:05 AM

Do the Base Oil Interchange rules allow a syn-blend and full-syn to share the same dexos1 license number?

The Amazon 5w30 matches the dexos1 Gen2 license number (D10386HG025) for:
7-Eleven Full Synthetic
Accel Full Synthetic
Capital Bulk Full Synthetic (Warren Distribution)
Casey's Drive Professional Series Full Synthetic
Federated Auto Parts Full Synthetic
FVP Full Synthetic
Holiday Full Synthetic
Kum & Go Full Synthetic
Lubritek Full Synthetic
Maximo Full Syn
MAG1
Meijer Full Synthetic
Mighty Engine Guard Full Synthetic
Mighty Engine Guard Full Synthetic Blend (note it has the SAME dexos1 license as their Full-Syn product!!)
Parts Master Synthetic
Prime Guard Full Synthetic
Proline Full Synthetic
Roughneck Lubricants Full Synthetic
STP Full Syn
SuperTech Full Syn
UNO Ultra Full Syn
XP Full Syn
Posted By: nap

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/06/18 12:13 AM

Any idea who is the supplier behind all these store brands?
Posted By: Shannow

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/06/18 12:13 AM

Great observation.
Being it's a GM spec, and not an API spec, I doubt the Base oil interchange rules apply.

Given that, I'd suggest that they are either the same, or have an approved set of basestocks tested by the additive company.
Posted By: oil_film_movies

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/06/18 12:37 AM

Originally Posted By: nap
Any idea who is the supplier behind all these store brands?
Warren Distribution https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeGk2xeIcTY is the blender.
However, they don't formulate their own addtive packages. That comes from Lubrizol or Oronite or Afton, whoever they use that did the dexos1 Gen2 tests. Also, they get shipments of spec base oil from the lowest bidder as well.
Posted By: dogememe

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/06/18 12:51 AM

Originally Posted By: CR94
Originally Posted By: dogememe
Nice, another quality Warren oil.
Which Warren? There are two Warren outfits blending private-label oils, y'know.


What? Now I'm confused.
Posted By: hallstevenson

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/06/18 01:44 AM

Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Do the Base Oil Interchange rules allow a syn-blend and full-syn to share the same dexos1 license number?

Mighty Engine Guard Full Synthetic
Mighty Engine Guard Full Synthetic Blend (note it has the SAME dexos1 license as their Full-Syn product!!)

Just my opinion here but since the license number in question is clearly a full synthetic, Mighty Engine may be choosing to re-label their full synthetic as a lesser-grade 'blend', sell it at a lower cost, and take less margin on sales. Not sure why they'd want to do that but it's their choice. Since they are selling a better product but calling it a lesser, there's nothing shady either. It's not going to hurt an engine either.

My company produces/sells chemicals and some identical chemicals are labeled with different product names. This is done because customers often want the product that's "ideal" for their application when in reality, it works ideally in multiple applications. When it comes to getting certifications, we are able to tell them "these 4 products are identical" and they only have to validate one of them and then all of the other "like" products are certified too.

Of course, this could just be a typo or mistake in the listing.
Posted By: 4WD

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/06/18 03:40 AM

Originally Posted By: JeffKeryk
Why not? Bezos wants to take over the world, and he just might do it.
The oil will track your whereabouts, no doubt.


Gets nothing from me so same with this stuff Ö
Posted By: oil_film_movies

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 06/06/18 04:03 PM

Originally Posted By: dogememe
Originally Posted By: CR94
Originally Posted By: dogememe
Nice, another quality Warren oil.
Which Warren? There are two Warren outfits blending private-label oils, y'know.
What? Now I'm confused.
You're not the only one. There is a "WD Warren Distribution" company http://www.warrendistribution.com/ , and there is a separate, different company called "Warren Oil Company" http://www.warrenoil.com/ . Both are mostly in the same market. Amazon has, for the time being, hooked up with WD. Tomorrow it could be anybody else. As long as the spec on the oil is the same, Amazon does not have to change their label. Same with Walmart's deal on SuperTech.
Posted By: rsalan

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 07/31/18 02:23 AM

Originally Posted By: JustN89
Originally Posted By: mrdctaylor
If it is priced right, I'd be all over it. But I'll bet I can still get better deals locally between clearances and rebates. If I can have a good quality synthetic oil prime shipped to my house for a great price that means I can let me stockpile of clearance oil dwindle. :-)

If recent trends mean anything, I'd expect this to be listed at the same price as SuperTech at Walmart.


Looks like it's out: AmazonBasic 0w-20.

Priced at about the same as M1.
Posted By: PimTac

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 07/31/18 02:35 AM

As long as you can get a major brand for less $$, itís not much of a deal.
Posted By: 4WD

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 07/31/18 02:38 AM

Originally Posted By: PimTac
As long as you can get a major brand for less $$, itís not much of a deal.


I like to think way beyond a bottle and a buck Ö we need the major energy companies in many facets of our lives Ö
Amazon Ö I donít need at all Ö
Posted By: CaptainBiggles

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 07/31/18 02:44 AM

Welp, it's here. Some of it, at least:

https://amzn.to/2Kd08qT
Posted By: ctechbob

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 07/31/18 08:03 AM

https://tinyurl.com/y9mwkg5b


For those prices I'll stick with my 5 gallon pails of MileSyn. Full synthetic Dexos SN+ for ~$17/5 Qts.
Posted By: demarpaint

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 07/31/18 08:44 AM

No great savings at all. I'll pass.
Posted By: Dallas69

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 07/31/18 12:22 PM

I won't support Amazon.
Posted By: FordCapriDriver

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 07/31/18 12:41 PM

The way Amazon treats their workers is appalling so i tend to not buy off Amazon unless i get an outrageously good deal.
Posted By: Virtus_Probi

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 07/31/18 01:01 PM

That price is a big disappointment!
The only saving grace I can find is that it might be special superdense oil...the shipping weight for 5q of 5W30 is 30 pounds!

Never mind...the item weight is 9.93 lbs. 20 lbs of box and bubble wrap???
Posted By: Duffyjr

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 07/31/18 02:41 PM

Not when you can get this for $18.72 with prime.

https://smile.amazon.com/Castrol-03057-M...oil+amazonbasic
Posted By: IndyFan

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 07/31/18 02:44 PM

Yep, no bargain there.

Who makes it?
Posted By: mrdctaylor

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 07/31/18 02:47 PM

Disappointed at the price point. I'd buy Amazon oil if a 5 qt jug was around $15. Someone needs to buy some just to check it out and report back.

Their 5W30 version:
https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Full...hetic+motor+oil
Posted By: 4WD

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 07/31/18 02:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Dallas69
I won't support Amazon.


Same. This drone stuff from Amazon will not have a happy ending Ö one more reason I love this shot

Posted By: gojoneeded

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 08/01/18 12:14 AM

I would use it if it was cheap enough, but Amazon has made the bottle look as generic as it can possible be. The bottle looks like it was bought on a government contract for black and white police cruisers. You have to be 3 times better than Mobil 1 at something on the bottle and designed by NASA engineers! Oil marketers also have to have cap on the bottle the size of a beer koozie so we can pour out 5 quarts in 3.2 seconds into a funnel at 5 quarts per minute flow rate. I might subscribe and save if they could use a big truck in a commercial driving thru a ring of fire, with 3 times the thermal breakdown protection of Mobil 1!
Posted By: demarpaint

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 08/01/18 06:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Dallas69
I won't support Amazon.

I've been buying less and less from them. I have gotten some tool and parts deals on Ebay that blows Amazon prices out of the water. And they don't play games with shipping if you aren't a prime member. I'm all about getting the best prices from reputable websites and sellers.
Posted By: cheesepuffs

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 08/01/18 10:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Dallas69
I won't support Amazon.


Why not?
Posted By: Dallas69

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 08/02/18 03:27 AM

Online sales is putting actual stores at risk.
A lot of workers are losing jobs because people are too lazy to get away from their computer and go to a real store.
Posted By: rooflessVW

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 08/02/18 03:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Dallas69
Online sales is putting actual stores at risk.
A lot of workers are losing jobs because people are too lazy to get away from their computer and go to a real store.

Laziness has nothing to do with it.

Miserable customer service, poor inventory, and uncompetitive pricing keeps myself and I suspect many others out of most brick-and-mortar stores.
Posted By: PimTac

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 08/02/18 03:43 AM

Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Originally Posted By: Dallas69
Online sales is putting actual stores at risk.
A lot of workers are losing jobs because people are too lazy to get away from their computer and go to a real store.

Laziness has nothing to do with it.

Miserable customer service, poor inventory, and uncompetitive pricing keeps myself and I suspect many others out of most brick-and-mortar stores.





Exactly
Posted By: Dallas69

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 08/02/18 10:53 AM

I don't mind spending a little bit more to support local stores.
And yes it is about laziness in most cases.
If someone has a disability or health issue,then that is understandable.
Posted By: Fifty150

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 12/29/18 09:23 AM

I don't mind supporting local business. But it's a 2 way street. Local business has to support me also. I understand overhead cost, markup, and margin. But there had better be a higher level of service, which is not available online. I recently had a parts guy tell me that he can order it, and have it in 2 days. Well, I could order it myself and have it in 2 days. Funny thing is that the store was actually going to order from Amazon, then charge me more.
Posted By: 4WD

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 12/29/18 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Dallas69
I don't mind spending a little bit more to support local stores.
And yes it is about laziness in most cases.
If someone has a disability or health issue,then that is understandable.


Aside from motor oil (I'm getting mostly 3 or 4 name brands) eBay has lots of used options - Like a while back I needed to put new SST cable on my boat lift and bought a used crimping tool ... something I'll hardly ever use ... but was important to have ... New ? Most likely to buy local or at the big city outlets that is a 45 minute drive - catch a change of pace meal with the wife etc ...
Amazon remains a thing of the past for me ...
Posted By: Mr Nice

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 12/29/18 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Dallas69
Online sales is putting actual stores at risk.
A lot of workers are losing jobs because people are too lazy to get away from their computer and go to a real store.

Avoiding a packed Wal-Mart on your day off is a good thing.

I shop a LOT less at Wal-Mart and a few clicks on Amazon and I'm done shopping.

No need to deal with the Wal-Mart craziness. For produce and food I shop at local supermarket.
Posted By: 4WD

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 12/29/18 12:01 PM

My son works as a systems analyst in the electronic money sector - and says you are better off to plug that chip into a reader in town than use the same card on the internet ...
I have had 2 cards hacked but not sure how they got hacked ... (they had been used online and other places as well) ...
The only change I made is I don't enter a card online anymore ... has been two years now ...

Any thoughts on that ?
Posted By: Virtus_Probi

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 12/29/18 01:31 PM

The recent flurry of news reports and YouTube videos about package theft have me wondering about the future of mass home delivery.
At some point, the online vendors are going to have to have the delivery services do a better job of documenting packages being placed, maybe take a timestamped video of the item being placed or do something like a GPS track of it, and then say the thefts after delivery are not their problem...they are not going to take these losses forever. Consumers are going to get ticked about buying things and not getting a refund when they are stolen, and the police can't spend their time following UPS and Fedex trucks around. Scumbags will always be with us and this is clearly pretty easy money for them.
I know some people have a setup to allow deliveries from Amazon (at least, maybe others) be placed in their house through electronic unlocking, but I would NEVER agree to such a thing and I'm sure others will be right there with me on that. Package thieves could also be more bold and break a window or whatever to get in if they feel pretty sure nobody is home.
Amazon also provides pickup sites for packages, but, if I have to drive out to such a place to get something, why not just go to the store for things that are available locally? I mean, unless there is a big price difference....

We have had a few online deliveries "disappear" and I have no idea if they were just not really delivered or stolen. We are pretty far off the road and I'd think coming all the way down our long driveway would be a little intimidating to most thieves...BUT, the caveat there is that no neighbor could POSSIBLY see a theft in progress once they made down to our house. Housing is fairly low density here and thieves would have to do a lot of driving to get multiple items...I'm sure more urban areas are more attractive with higher densities of housing and packages as well as porches and doors being a few feet from the sidewalk/road and the anonymity of crowds.

I'm sure there are good answers out there...maybe everybody who orders a lot online has an electronically activated lockbox that is bolted down? Or just buy more stuff at stores like we did before?
Posted By: ka9mnx

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 12/29/18 01:38 PM

I think your son will agree most card information gets stolen when banks, off-line and on-line stores get hacked. Some cards get hijacked when card readers are installed in do-it-youself places like ATM's and gas stations. You take a chance no matter where you use it.
Posted By: ka9mnx

Re: Amazon Oil Coming? - 12/29/18 01:49 PM

I rebuilt the entire suspension on my 4Runner buying genuine Toyota parts from Amazon. Had to resort to Ebay for rebuilt rear lower control arms that no one sells. Next will be the radiator and timing belt kit. I saved about 1/3 of the cost. I'm on a fixed income so money talks for me.
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