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Pentastar oil changes #5447581 06/06/20 10:25 AM
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Just got a 2020 3.6L. Noticed it holds 5 quarts whereas my 2013 Pentastar holds 6 quarts.
Well, at least that’s a handy one jug change …

What are folks running ? I’m thinking 5k but with Fram Ultra leave the filter for every other time.
(it’s easy, but hear about cracking) …

What say you ?

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I usually run PP in ours. I change the filter every time, but really due to waves in the pleats at 5k. I have not tried ultra filters yet - usually M1 (closeout) or KN. as far as cracking, don't over-tighten the housing. our 2019 holds 6, although it is the 3.2 Penta.


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Originally Posted by 4WD
Just got a 2020 3.6L. Noticed it holds 5 quarts whereas my 2013 Pentastar holds 6 quarts.
Well, at least that’s a handy one jug change …

What are folks running ? I’m thinking 5k but with Fram Ultra leave the filter for every other time.
(it’s easy, but hear about cracking) …

What say you ?


This is what I’ve been trying to figure out for my 2016. I’ve been thinking 0w20 M1 EP, or RP HPS. Still undecided on filter. Been thinking Fram Ultra or Napa Platinum or Gold.

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Re: Pentastar oil changes [Re: tomcat27] #5447592 06/06/20 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by tomcat27
I usually run PP in ours. I change the filter every time, but really due to waves in the pleats at 5k. I have not tried ultra filters yet - usually M1 (closeout) or KN. as far as cracking, don't over-tighten the housing. our 2019 holds 6, although it is the 3.2 Penta.


Got a PM from PSD … he’s tried several filters and indicated the structural integrity of the XG is keeping them straight, and the space out distance in the canister is just right.
We already know it filters low micron, flows well, and lasts long. Found them for about $10.

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I just looked at the Ultra. Looks robust.


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Re: Pentastar oil changes [Re: 4WD] #5447604 06/06/20 11:05 AM
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I've been using the Fram XG-11665 in my 2016 Wrangler w/o issue. I dip the tip of the filter in clean oil, to lube the O-Ring, and lube the filter housing cap O-Ring with fresh oil as well. I tighten the cap to about 110-120" lbs. The filters come out in good shape. I think a lot of people fail to oil the small O-Ring which causes binding during tightening down the cap, both O-Rings need to be lubed. Then they grossly over-tighten the filter cap, causing more problems and the potential for cracking the housing causing leaks. I have a bunch of Mobil 1 filters, hopefully I have the same luck with them. My OCI is 5K with a new filter.


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Re: Pentastar oil changes [Re: demarpaint] #5447611 06/06/20 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by demarpaint
I've been using the Fram XG-11665 in my 2016 Wrangler w/o issue. I dip the tip of the filter in clean oil, to lube the O-Ring, and lube the filter housing cap O-Ring with fresh oil as well. I tighten the cap to about 110-120" lbs. The filters come out in good shape. I think a lot of people fail to oil the small O-Ring which causes binding during tightening down the cap, both O-Rings need to be lubed. Then they grossly over-tighten the filter cap, causing more problems and the potential for cracking the housing causing leaks. I have a bunch of Mobil 1 filters, hopefully I have the same luck with them. My OCI is 5K with a new filter.


What oil are you running?


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Re: Pentastar oil changes [Re: demarpaint] #5447626 06/06/20 11:37 AM
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Thanks … always some (learned) tricks on these …
my GM its best to snap the filter into the cap with some superlube on that latch …

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I've been using the Fram XG-11665 in my 2016 Wrangler w/o issue. I dip the tip of the filter in clean oil, to lube the O-Ring, and lube the filter housing cap O-Ring with fresh oil as well. I tighten the cap to about 110-120" lbs. The filters come out in good shape. I think a lot of people fail to oil the small O-Ring which causes binding during tightening down the cap, both O-Rings need to be lubed. Then they grossly over-tighten the filter cap, causing more problems and the potential for cracking the housing causing leaks. I have a bunch of Mobil 1 filters, hopefully I have the same luck with them. My OCI is 5K with a new filter.


What oil are you running?

Currently Mobil 1 ESP 0W30.


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If the Ultra distorts, try the Wix XP/Napa Platinum smile

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Originally Posted by demarpaint
I've been using the Fram XG-11665 in my 2016 Wrangler w/o issue. I dip the tip of the filter in clean oil, to lube the O-Ring, and lube the filter housing cap O-Ring with fresh oil as well. I tighten the cap to about 110-120" lbs. The filters come out in good shape. I think a lot of people fail to oil the small O-Ring which causes binding during tightening down the cap, both O-Rings need to be lubed. Then they grossly over-tighten the filter cap, causing more problems and the potential for cracking the housing causing leaks. I have a bunch of Mobil 1 filters, hopefully I have the same luck with them. My OCI is 5K with a new filter.


What oil are you running?

Currently Mobil 1 ESP 0W30.


What is better? EP 0w20 or ESP 0w30?


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Re: Pentastar oil changes [Re: slacktide_bitog] #5447685 06/06/20 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by slacktide_bitog
If the Ultra distorts, try the Wix XP/Napa Platinum smile



I just left Napa. I was inquiring about the Platinum filter. I guess it’s really good, but it’s 17.00. Shame they are made in China now.


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Re: Pentastar oil changes [Re: Since1941] #5447724 06/06/20 02:01 PM
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If the Ultra distorts, try the Wix XP/Napa Platinum smile



I just left Napa. I was inquiring about the Platinum filter. I guess it’s really good, but it’s 17.00. Shame they are made in China now.


It goes on sale a few times a year for $5.99

sad about China though cry

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I just left Napa. I was inquiring about the Platinum filter. I guess it’s really good, but it’s 17.00. Shame they are made in China now. [/quote]

So that’s a mesh/glass setup like XP … anyway I ordered 4 XG-1165’s …
Got plenty to do 500 mile and 5K change to get on track for 5K OCI …
Will do a side by side with OEM filter and so on …
Have time to think about how long to run the 2nd filter …

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Originally Posted by 4WD
I just left Napa. I was inquiring about the Platinum filter. I guess it’s really good, but it’s 17.00. Shame they are made in China now.


So that’s a mesh/glass setup like XP … anyway I ordered 4 XG-1165’s …
Got plenty to do 500 mile and 5K change to get on track for 5K OCI …
Will do a side by side with OEM filter and so on …
Have time to think about how long to run the 2nd filter … [/quote]

Awesome! What oil you going to run?


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