Originally Posted by adamsoil
Lol you are gonna get that exited about it are you.
I don't think anybody is excited, at least that's not the impression I got from Rand's post, and I certainly wasn't excited in mine.
Originally Posted by adamsoil
I didnt realise a public forum only decreed facts from all posts. Why is everyone getting so exited about it. There are plenty of threads on oil additives yet you have seem to taken a liking to me. I'm flattered but really.
We have a whole subforum for folks who want to debate the merits of additives, the general consensus is, and has been, that they serve no purpose on a properly maintained engine other than making the owner's wallet lighter. Given that this is an oil forum, trying to keep things factual on that subject should be expected. You made an unsubstantiated statement and seem surprised to be called on it.
Originally Posted by adamsoil
I think this is the reason why so many stay away from here now.
Boy, you seem to be implying a lot of familiarity with this board and its operations for somebody who just joined
Originally Posted by adamsoil
People come to get some basic information on oil etc but they get lynched because the mighty crowd flame down the law. I even have people here now telling me what I was actually mindfuly impying. Well you know what they say about that dont you.
Your post in this thread wasn't somebody trying to glean valuable information, it was a statement, devoid of evidence as to its validity, and presented as absolute fact:
Originally Posted by adamsoil
They all need to be flushed. Haters going to hate. Nearly every pro mechanic in NZ and Australia engine flush every service. Where are all the negative stories? 1000s of cars everyday. How do you clean turbo lines and filters? Ive never heard a bad story in real life only on the internet.
Note the complete absence of a qualifier indicating that this was opinion or exclusively the view of the person stating it. It was presented as an absolute fact, which is why it was contested.
Originally Posted by adamsoil
Give everyone a break and try and make this place friendly for the newcomers and others.
This board is very friendly towards folks not making unsubstantiated statements. It also, as noted, has a sub-forum for folks who want to explicitly discuss the perceived merits of additives with like-minded individuals.
Originally Posted by adamsoil
When forums start dying this is what usually starts to happen. You have friends here and its part of your lifestyle so anyone tramping on your ground must be viewed in a negative light especially when they dont conform to the status quo of bitog.
This board shows no evidence of dying. What we have experienced in recent years is a decline in professional/expert membership as folks relentlessly and mindlessly parrot nonsense contrary to what the experts have indicated and so those members stop posting. Doug Hillary is one such casualty, there are many more.
Originally Posted by adamsoil
Quick go back to finding the cheapest deal on oil and filters. All that is here are opinions and thats the way it works here.
That's nonsense. While there are indeed some members on here that pursue the cheapest oil and filter combo, it hardly makes up the bulk of the membership. While everyone has opinions, some of are of significantly higher value than others. Those people are able to provide SAE studies, industry tests and myriad other data points to support their positions.
A guy with 30 posts who has been here for less than a month stating absolutely that every engine needs to be flushed should expect pushback. I think it is more bizarre that he or she wouldn't.