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'17 F150 - 3.5L EcoBoost - Rotella Gas Truck 5w-30 - 7,165 mi. #5193200 08/21/19 06:22 PM
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The longest OCI I've done on this engine. The first time with RGT. Pretty pleased with the results, especially the flashpoint. The viscosity didn't hold up as much as I was hoping, but I suppose I could bring the OCI back down some. I don't have any huge amount of time researching UOAs though. What do you all think?

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'14 Ford Escape Titanium - 2.0L EcoBoost
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'17 Ford F-150 XLT FX4 - Gen2 3.5L EcoBoost
Rotella Gas Truck 5w-30, WIX 57502XP
Re: '17 F150 - 3.5L EcoBoost - Rotella Gas Truck 5w-30 - 7,165 mi. [Re: mdtaylor86] #5193209 08/21/19 06:32 PM
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The other 4 oil changes
What oil was used for each of those ?

Re: '17 F150 - 3.5L EcoBoost - Rotella Gas Truck 5w-30 - 7,165 mi. [Re: mdtaylor86] #5193224 08/21/19 06:47 PM
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5/4/2017 - The first one is obviously factory fill. I'm assuming Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5w-30.

9/4/2017 - Valvoline SynPower MST 5w-40. I'm assuming this one caught your eye?

4/20/2018 - Amsoil XL 5w-30

11/4/2018 - Amsoil XL 10w-30


'14 Ford Escape Titanium - 2.0L EcoBoost
Pennzoil Platinum High Mileage 5w-30 - MAHLE OC981

'17 Ford F-150 XLT FX4 - Gen2 3.5L EcoBoost
Rotella Gas Truck 5w-30, WIX 57502XP
Re: '17 F150 - 3.5L EcoBoost - Rotella Gas Truck 5w-30 - 7,165 mi. [Re: mdtaylor86] #5193230 08/21/19 06:56 PM
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I like the RTG for the money for the high Moly
I’ve owned an Ecoboost and I’m not a big fan of long oil changes
I’d stick with the RTG
Looks good to me !!👍

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Re: '17 F150 - 3.5L EcoBoost - Rotella Gas Truck 5w-30 - 7,165 mi. [Re: mdtaylor86] #5193248 08/21/19 07:18 PM
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Heard good thing from people who use Castrol Magnatec 5W30 in these Ecoboost engines........something to consider.

Just saying....... wink


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Re: '17 F150 - 3.5L EcoBoost - Rotella Gas Truck 5w-30 - 7,165 mi. [Re: incognito_2u] #5193446 08/21/19 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by incognito_2u
Heard good thing from people who use Castrol Magnatec 5W30 in these Ecoboost engines........something to consider.

Just saying....... wink


Only way to go.

Re: '17 F150 - 3.5L EcoBoost - Rotella Gas Truck 5w-30 - 7,165 mi. [Re: kstanf150] #5193464 08/22/19 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by kstanf150
I like the RTG for the money for the high Moly
I’ve owned an Ecoboost and I’m not a big fan of long oil changes
I’d stick with the RTG
Looks good to me !!👍

Agree. The RGT does look good in this truck. So do the others though.


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Re: '17 F150 - 3.5L EcoBoost - Rotella Gas Truck 5w-30 - 7,165 mi. [Re: mdtaylor86] #5193537 08/22/19 04:43 AM
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Overall the wear metals are settling down. The Fe avg ppm/1k miles is nice and low now; it's been coming down regardless of the lube used. At close to 2ppm/1k mi, it's about as good as you could hope for. The other metals are so low now they are just noise. The contamination is low as well.

I see you stopped getting the TBN; that's a wise choice, as it's probably not going to show any correlation to wear rates anyway. I've seen tons of data with both TBN and TAN, and historically they've not been a good predictor of impending wear in shorter OCIs. With today's sealed crankcase systems, there's just not nearly as much risk of acidic damage. The only time I would consider getting TBN/TAN counts is if you're doing greatly extended OFCIs; past 15k miles.

Are you following the IOLM? I would think you could easily get to 10k miles in an OCI.


The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
Re: '17 F150 - 3.5L EcoBoost - Rotella Gas Truck 5w-30 - 7,165 mi. [Re: mdtaylor86] #5193616 08/22/19 07:50 AM
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If it was my Ford, no more than 5,000 miles between oil changes.
Recent "livery" thread as an example.

Ford just want vehicles to make it past powertrain warranty, and then the owner is on his own.
From personal experience having bought and run over a 1,000 Fords for a fleet.


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Re: '17 F150 - 3.5L EcoBoost - Rotella Gas Truck 5w-30 - 7,165 mi. [Re: dnewton3] #5193723 08/22/19 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dnewton3
Overall the wear metals are settling down. The Fe avg ppm/1k miles is nice and low now; it's been coming down regardless of the lube used. At close to 2ppm/1k mi, it's about as good as you could hope for. The other metals are so low now they are just noise. The contamination is low as well.

I see you stopped getting the TBN; that's a wise choice, as it's probably not going to show any correlation to wear rates anyway. I've seen tons of data with both TBN and TAN, and historically they've not been a good predictor of impending wear in shorter OCIs. With today's sealed crankcase systems, there's just not nearly as much risk of acidic damage. The only time I would consider getting TBN/TAN counts is if you're doing greatly extended OFCIs; past 15k miles.

Are you following the IOLM? I would think you could easily get to 10k miles in an OCI.



Indeed, those are basically the comments I'm getting from Blackstone. I really could not be more pleased with my EcoBoost. 80% of my miles are highway, with some city and dirt road miles filling out the rest. I do not push the limit on hauling and I don't tow.

I completely agree about TBN. I realized with the OCIs I run, there's absolutely no point to getting that test.

I am not following the IOLM per se. I typically run it around 5-6K. The IOLM would be going off almost exactly at 10K. I still have a ways to go to build up the confidence to run that long, but I'm working on it.


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Rotella Gas Truck 5w-30, WIX 57502XP
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Originally Posted by Danno
If it was my Ford, no more than 5,000 miles between oil changes.
Recent "livery" thread as an example.

Ford just want vehicles to make it past powertrain warranty, and then the owner is on his own.
From personal experience having bought and run over a 1,000 Fords for a fleet.


100% agree for fleet vehicles. All my fleet trucks get 5K. They are run hard and heavy and idle a lot in city traffic and on job sites.

My personal F150, as well as my wife's Escape, have LIFETIME powertrain warranties from the dealership. So I'm perfectly willing to push the envelope as far as Ford's recommended OCI with those vehicles. At near 60K miles on my truck, doesn't appear to be an issue at all...yet.


'14 Ford Escape Titanium - 2.0L EcoBoost
Pennzoil Platinum High Mileage 5w-30 - MAHLE OC981

'17 Ford F-150 XLT FX4 - Gen2 3.5L EcoBoost
Rotella Gas Truck 5w-30, WIX 57502XP
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Originally Posted by Danno
If it was my Ford, no more than 5,000 miles between oil changes.
Recent "livery" thread as an example.

Ford just want vehicles to make it past powertrain warranty, and then the owner is on his own.
From personal experience having bought and run over a 1,000 Fords for a fleet.


Sorry not only do I believe you spreading bunk there is no merit to your assertation.


make the inside of your engine oil cap white.
don't use.
Re: '17 F150 - 3.5L EcoBoost - Rotella Gas Truck 5w-30 - 7,165 mi. [Re: mdtaylor86] #5207336 09/07/19 08:30 PM
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7 - 7.5k miles looks like a good interval for you. RTG looks like it performed well for you.

AMSOIL XL looks like it maintained viscosity a tad better, but both look very good


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Re: '17 F150 - 3.5L EcoBoost - Rotella Gas Truck 5w-30 - 7,165 mi. [Re: dave1251] #5215874 09/18/19 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by dave1251
Originally Posted by Danno
If it was my Ford, no more than 5,000 miles between oil changes.
Recent "livery" thread as an example.

Ford just want vehicles to make it past powertrain warranty, and then the owner is on his own.
From personal experience having bought and run over a 1,000 Fords for a fleet.


Sorry not only do I believe you spreading bunk there is no merit to your assertation.


I've heard more than once that Police vehicles get oil changes every 5k miles as well, and they use the lowest cost 5W-30 that meets the Ford specifications.

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