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Re: My sister is looking for a track day toy / weekend car [Re: ddombrowski] #5061410
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When she wrecks the viper, even minorly, the repair bill starts at 300% of her initial budget...and the tires are 50% of her budget, every track day. Talk about thread drift...


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Re: My sister is looking for a track day toy / weekend car [Re: Ws6] #5061418
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Originally Posted by Ws6
When she wrecks the viper, even minorly, the repair bill starts at 300% of her initial budget...and the tires are 50% of her budget, every track day. Talk about thread drift...


True. But since it was suggested, I thought I'd give a bit of input as an owner.

And she may decide she really likes trackdays, and might decide she has a bigger budget than initially planned...

The car linked is one of several special editions that were produced near the end of the 5th gen production run. So it may prove to be collectable as alluded to.

Re: My sister is looking for a track day toy / weekend car [Re: 02SE] #5061423
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Originally Posted by 02SE
Originally Posted by Ws6
When she wrecks the viper, even minorly, the repair bill starts at 300% of her initial budget...and the tires are 50% of her budget, every track day. Talk about thread drift...


True. But since it was suggested, I thought I'd give a bit of input as an owner.

And she may decide she really likes trackdays, and might decide she has a bigger budget than initially planned...

The car linked is one of several special editions that were produced near the end of the 5th gen production run. So it may prove to be collectable as alluded to.




A Viper isn't the car to learn on. Especially if residual value matters. Miata.

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Re: My sister is looking for a track day toy / weekend car [Re: ddombrowski] #5061454
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Re: My sister is looking for a track day toy / weekend car [Re: ddombrowski] #5062114
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Re: My sister is looking for a track day toy / weekend car [Re: ddombrowski] #5062130
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Re: My sister is looking for a track day toy / weekend car [Re: ddombrowski] #5062267
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Tell her to buy a nice MGM and put the money she'd waste on racing in an IRA.
And pay cash for everything.


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Re: My sister is looking for a track day toy / weekend car [Re: ddombrowski] #5062309
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Re: My sister is looking for a track day toy / weekend car [Re: ddombrowski] #5062896
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If it must be auto, Mustang.

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Re: My sister is looking for a track day toy / weekend car [Re: ddombrowski] #5063453
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$5000 is a woefully insufficient budget to get into high performance track days.
Maybe do a couple of events renting a prepped cheapo econobox to see if she really likes it.
In the meantime set her up to drive a manual car of any type on the street for a couple of months.

Then if she really wants to get into the hobby, a nice used Porsche Boxster S.
With a manual transmission.
You really have to work on her to get her to take a manual.
Tell her she's not really driving unless she has a manual.

With a Porsche, she can also join the local Porsche Club, who are generally nice people.
And they do social events, and have good driver education programs. Sometimes they put on women-only events.

And absolutely nix any inclination toward a Miata. They spend so much time pulling over for faster cars that their drivers never get a clear lap.

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Re: My sister is looking for a track day toy / weekend car [Re: A_Harman] #5063565
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Originally Posted by A_Harman
$5000 is a woefully insufficient budget to get into high performance track days.
Maybe do a couple of events renting a prepped cheapo econobox to see if she really likes it.
In the meantime set her up to drive a manual car of any type on the street for a couple of months.

Then if she really wants to get into the hobby, a nice used Porsche Boxster S.
With a manual transmission.
You really have to work on her to get her to take a manual.
Tell her she's not really driving unless she has a manual.

With a Porsche, she can also join the local Porsche Club, who are generally nice people.
And they do social events, and have good driver education programs. Sometimes they put on women-only events.

And absolutely nix any inclination toward a Miata. They spend so much time pulling over for faster cars that their drivers never get a clear lap.



Agree on all the above, w a caveat; is the Boxster S the right first serious track toy? Hardtops, if required, are silly money, and only $5K buys you a ratty 986 with many potentially very expensive needs... I'd say the rental idea is great or a Miata first, plus the pulling over is a great motivator.

For that $ range there are also the BMW e36 series; 325is, 323is, 328is or 318ti. I did my first HPDE in a '98 328is...fun and relatively forgiving.


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Re: My sister is looking for a track day toy / weekend car [Re: MCompact] #5063664
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Originally Posted by MCompact
Tell her to buy a nice MGM and put the money she'd waste on racing in an IRA.
And pay cash for everything.


I must be getting old because I thought the same. Save it for retirement. But then, living until retirement isn't guaranteed and $10k isn't that much fun money


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Re: My sister is looking for a track day toy / weekend car [Re: ddombrowski] #5063683
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Miata with a manual.
Mustang with automatic.
Draw up a budget with your sister. Be positive, but she should know what things cost(tires come to mind) and how often they need replacing.
Do you know specialist shops you trust that work on track cars too? This could also be a deciding factor.


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Re: My sister is looking for a track day toy / weekend car [Re: ddombrowski] #5064276
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Originally Posted by ddombrowski
Originally Posted by Lolvoguy
Auto and under 5 k?
Volvo 240 sedan. You can find some decent upgrades for pretty cheap.
Easy to repair as well.


Funny

I wasn't making a joke.
That era Volvo had some of the most reliable auto transmissions ever.

As many have said before,
it's more fun to drive a "slow car" fast, than a "fast car" slow


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Re: My sister is looking for a track day toy / weekend car [Re: Lolvoguy] #5064291
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Originally Posted by Lolvoguy
As many have said before,
it's more fun to drive a "slow car" fast, than a "fast car" slow

Yeah, no.

Not on a race track.


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