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How to Handle an Auto That Will Not be Driven? #4810089
07/10/18 10:56 AM
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I have watched a few YouTubes and done a little Googling. IF you have a car that you only drive every other week or so, how do you treat the gasoline? Or do you treat the gasoline? For example my son's IS350 and my LS430 get driven very little. Sometimes they won't get driven for several weeks at a time.


We use that Amsoil PI about 3 times per year and we only buy Top Tier Gasoline.


NO, we are not gonna sell them.....LOL. We searched too long and hard to find them and they are keepers. My LS430 will probably be the last car I purchase. I'm 61. So, between my LS400 and the LS430 I think I am good til I meet eternity....


'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 58K
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Re: How to Handle an Auto That Will Not be Driven? [Re: Gebo] #4810101
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Don't fill up. Put a few gallons of high(er) octane at a time so the gas doesn't get too old.

Re: How to Handle an Auto That Will Not be Driven? [Re: Gebo] #4810115
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Why higher octane?

Re: How to Handle an Auto That Will Not be Driven? [Re: Gebo] #4810157
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iirc if the gas is sitting longer than "normal" or average, the higher octane would hold up better.

Re: How to Handle an Auto That Will Not be Driven? [Re: OilUzer] #4810163
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Originally Posted By: OilUzer
Don't fill up. Put a few gallons of high(er) octane at a time so the gas doesn't get too old.


That's contrary to most advice you will find about storage, which suggests either a complete drain or the gas tank completely full.

The logic behind a full gas tank is there's less surface area for evaporation and condensation, as well as not as much air volume for condensation if the temperature drops.

In any case, a modern car sitting for a month at a time wouldn't be of any concern to me. I'd keep the tank full, and try to drive it as much as possible when it was driven. I'd also be inclined to keep a battery tender on it, as modern cars have a pretty constant low level amount of drain on the battery and I've found most will go dead in 2-3 months.


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Re: How to Handle an Auto That Will Not be Driven? [Re: Gebo] #4810174
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The condensation is VERY minute compare to what's already in the gas.

Re: How to Handle an Auto That Will Not be Driven? [Re: Gebo] #4810178
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Reduce the size of the fleet.


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2018 Ford F350 6.2
Re: How to Handle an Auto That Will Not be Driven? [Re: CT8] #4810180
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Originally Posted By: CT8
Reduce the size of the fleet.


Now, now, be nice...


'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 58K
Amsoil in all engines, transmissions and differentials

Re: How to Handle an Auto That Will Not be Driven? [Re: Gebo] #4810181
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We do use only top tier high octane.


'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 58K
Amsoil in all engines, transmissions and differentials

Re: How to Handle an Auto That Will Not be Driven? [Re: Gebo] #4810188
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Every other week is still a decent amount. You made no mention of the anticipated distance.

E10 Gas gets old at about a month right?

I'd personally buy E0 and only get them out when you plan on taking them on at least 30 minute highway drives.


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02 Volvo S60 2.4T 177k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 149k Rotella T5 10w30 Supertech ST3980

Re: How to Handle an Auto That Will Not be Driven? [Re: OilUzer] #4810210
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Originally Posted By: OilUzer
Don't fill up. Put a few gallons of high(er) octane at a time so the gas doesn't get too old.


Wrong. You WANT the tank full on a stored car. The OP says he will be driving it a few times a month, so in this case, you should ABSOLUTELY store it full of fuel.

You dont need to add anything to the tank if you are going to be driving it a few times a month. You'll be using enough fuel to keep it fresh enough.


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12 Suzuki S40 Rotella 15W40
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Re: How to Handle an Auto That Will Not be Driven? [Re: OilUzer] #4810217
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Originally Posted By: OilUzer
The condensation is VERY minute compare to what's already in the gas.


I agree with OilUzer ... lol

Re: How to Handle an Auto That Will Not be Driven? [Re: Gebo] #4810231
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Fuel systems on modern cars are sealed up quite well so the gas doesn't evaporate and go stale as quickly as it will in say my '63 Studebaker with a vented gas cap. If the fuel tank doesn't see big temperature swings it's unlikely to aspirate much, if any, air, but it will aspirate less with less air space in the tank. Keeping it near full is a good choice.

Cars drain their batteries at different rates. If you can measure the current drain and the resting voltage after a couple weeks of storage we can make an educated guess as to the efficacy of a Battery Tender in your situation.


2015 Nissan Frontier S King Cab, 2.5L, 5MT
Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 in the crankcase. Red Line in the gearboxes.
Re: How to Handle an Auto That Will Not be Driven? [Re: bunnspecial] #4810241
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Originally Posted By: bunnspecial
Originally Posted By: OilUzer
Don't fill up. Put a few gallons of high(er) octane at a time so the gas doesn't get too old.


That's contrary to most advice you will find about storage, which suggests either a complete drain or the gas tank completely full.

The logic behind a full gas tank is there's less surface area for evaporation and condensation, as well as not as much air volume for condensation if the temperature drops.

In any case, a modern car sitting for a month at a time wouldn't be of any concern to me. I'd keep the tank full, and try to drive it as much as possible when it was driven. I'd also be inclined to keep a battery tender on it, as modern cars have a pretty constant low level amount of drain on the battery and I've found most will go dead in 2-3 months.


I thought the reason for keeping the tank full was to stop a steel tank from rusting, interesting. I guess E0 fuel would help reduce absorption, too.

Deffo battery charger of some sort, I have one of the cheapest NOCO models (the one that AVE tore down on youtube) and it came with a pigtail that you could bolt onto your battery. It's super handy because I don't have to remove the battery box cover to charge the battery. Here it is but you could probably just make one with anderson connectors, sweet!


03 Jetta AWP/09A 200k kms
Edge 0W40 + Mann 719/30
Re: How to Handle an Auto That Will Not be Driven? [Re: Gebo] #4810263
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Yeah hook up an SAE quick connect battery connector to the battery and throw it on the battery maintainer long term.

https://www.amazon.com/Battery-Tender-081-0069-6-Terminal-Disconnect/dp/B000NCOKZQ


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13 Yamaha XT250 Valv MC 10W40
12 Suzuki S40 Rotella 15W40
10 Acura TSX 2.4 PZL Plat 5W30
06 GMC Sierra Nextgen 10W30


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