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#4803492 - 07/02/18 08:11 PM 2017 Toyota Sienna filter
jhellwig Offline


Registered: 07/01/13
Posts: 1567
Loc: Ottumwa, Iowa
We are considering buying a 2017 sienna so I was researching changing oil on one. What a complicated mess that is compaired to a regular filter. I am used to the plain old Chevy spin the old one off spin the new one no o rings on the drain plug or filter housing.

I know of some of the issues from reading on here with the after market filters in the German vehicles but is that the same for the Toyota’s also? I like to shop the bargains on rock auto for filters.

Another question is on the filter housing removal tool. What style is the best?
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#4803507 - 07/02/18 08:38 PM Re: 2017 Toyota Sienna filter [Re: jhellwig]
Uregina09 Offline


Registered: 06/07/09
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If you think the filter is a complicated mess, you best leave the job to a professional.
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#4803513 - 07/02/18 08:46 PM Re: 2017 Toyota Sienna filter [Re: jhellwig]
faltic Offline


Registered: 02/15/14
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Loc: ga
What I like about doing the filter change on my 2017 Highlander V6 is no mess. Filter tools all over the Internet buy one with good reviews.
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#4803514 - 07/02/18 08:48 PM Re: 2017 Toyota Sienna filter [Re: Uregina09]
jhellwig Offline


Registered: 07/01/13
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Loc: Ottumwa, Iowa
It isn’t that I can’t do it or that it takes that much more time, it is just something I have never dealt with.
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#4803541 - 07/02/18 09:24 PM Re: 2017 Toyota Sienna filter [Re: jhellwig]
JeffKeryk Offline


Registered: 01/09/10
Posts: 320
Loc: Los Gatos, CA
Not so bad. Get a tool with flutes and slots. It is better to not use a 3/8" socket if the housing is really tight.
I had trouble with one.
Otherwise it's no big deal.
I used to work at a service station in the early 70's so I did a bunch of pre 1968 Chevy canister oil filters.

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#4803586 - 07/02/18 09:57 PM Re: 2017 Toyota Sienna filter [Re: jhellwig]
Slick17601 Offline


Registered: 12/04/04
Posts: 1519
Loc: Pennsylvania
OEM filters from eBay or Amazon work just fine. There is also a quality filter wrench on Amazon as well.

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#4803674 - 07/03/18 03:33 AM Re: 2017 Toyota Sienna filter [Re: jhellwig]
Driz Offline


Registered: 09/23/07
Posts: 290
Loc: northern NY
It’s not really hard just different. We just did an 18 RAV and it was no big deal. Just remember to change the O rings and if you can drain the filter by pulling the center drain (3/8 ratchet extension size) first. Then stick that plastic tube in there to drain it . Otherwise it’ll be a bit messy and run all over. You will need the special wrench with the notches to loosen the housing. We got ours at advance auto . Auto zone has them but they’re $15 instead of $12 and both rate sort of poorly but advance offers free lifetime replacement which might come in handy. The box says NO AIR GUNS which makes perfect sense but some folks need reminding.

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#4803696 - 07/03/18 06:23 AM Re: 2017 Toyota Sienna filter [Re: jhellwig]
smithph Offline


Registered: 02/07/08
Posts: 384
Loc: USA
March yourself on over to siennachat and create an account. Lots of good info there. Its a piece of cake. I use a set of ramps and a $15 metal oil filter wrench.

Link to thread with how to PDF attached.

http://www.siennachat.com/forum/28-how-g...ce-filters.html



Edited by smithph (07/03/18 06:29 AM)
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#4803704 - 07/03/18 06:45 AM Re: 2017 Toyota Sienna filter [Re: jhellwig]
danez_yoda Offline


Registered: 07/18/09
Posts: 497
Loc: texas
Yes get a oil filter wrench. I got the toyota oem one that doesn not have the slots on it but i think the after market ones that engage the tabs are better. Get the bug 1/2” socket to engage to it and a cheater bar for the first time you trmove it. The delaership torques the [censored] out of it unnecessarily. (Probably to discourage diy).

I get 5-10 toyota oem filters from ebay for $4 to $5 each shiped. They are good filters.

I dont bother with the prefrainng the filter as i have never got that to work without getting oil all over my hands anyway.

Just crank the canister off after the sump is drained. The. Change both orings while off the car. Rplace the filter and reinstall.

Just a bit more work but enough o erk you as to why they didnt leave well enough alone. Be happy it doesnt have a plastic housing like the corollas. They like to break and stick to themetsl thread. frown

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#4803723 - 07/03/18 07:26 AM Re: 2017 Toyota Sienna filter [Re: jhellwig]
supton Offline


Registered: 11/09/08
Posts: 12169
Loc: NH
I have the tool that doesn't have the slots, just the flutes. It likes to jam itself on the filter, but so far, no real issues. Some day I'll get the slotted tool. I don't use the predrain feature, maybe some day I'll try it. Yeah it's more messy, but I don't think it's all that bad. That's why I wear gloves.

I bought my filters off ebay for $40 for 10 filters, OEM. I think some of the deals come with crush washers too. Shop around. Might as well stock up on cabin filters (I'm assuming this has cabin filters?), I find mine are kinda nasty after a year. Might as well find a deal and have some on the shelf.
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#4803772 - 07/03/18 08:34 AM Re: 2017 Toyota Sienna filter [Re: jhellwig]
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Registered: 06/13/18
Posts: 8
Loc: NYC, NY
IMHO, the procedure is not any more messier than conventional spin-on style oil changes like my '15 Sienna. No oil drips or splashes on the underbody frame and just takes longer to perform if you choose to utilize the housing Predrain feature. Plus I don't need to jack the heavy van up and able to squeeze myself under the bumper to gain access to everything in clear sight. Since many posters here spend time to cut open the can to inspect condition and unusual fallout, this design seems quite beneficial with that aspect. The tool I use is the ABN 8060 as it grabs the meaty section of the housing. Just like previous response, this tool sometimes wedges itself so you have to be mindful and gingerly tap the tool to dislodge itself. The filter housing torque spec is 25N-m, housing predrain cap is 12.5N-m, and the drain plug is 40N-m via 14mm socket. The filter I use now is the Toyota OEM 04152-YZZA1. I did use a Purolator L25608 also with no fitment issues too. 0W-20 is the grade I used with both Mobil1 AFE and previously Quaker State Ultimate Durability at 6.4qts. I cannot recommend an oil brand because I believe the '17MY changed to direct injection or GDI and there's been several debatable threads about selecting an oil brand with better "volatility" characteristics that may aid in combating dirty intake valves with GDI. Because of this, some people have been drastically reducing OCI from 10K or servicing the PVC or EGR system more regularly. My '15MY is not applicable so I do not have anything useful to add on this specific topic. Best of luck.

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#4803905 - 07/03/18 11:27 AM Re: 2017 Toyota Sienna filter [Re: jhellwig]
cpayne5 Offline


Registered: 12/28/05
Posts: 619
Loc: Virginia
Partznet.com (a Toyota dealer in Philadelphia) sells the filters for $3/ea. Shipping is extra. I bought 100k miles worth of filters at once.
https://parts.conicellitoyotaofconshohocken.com/oil-filter-deals/

I use this on my 4Runner. It does it's job well and it's a solid, well built tool.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XTAGHU0


Edited by cpayne5 (07/03/18 11:27 AM)

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#4804355 - 07/03/18 07:09 PM Re: 2017 Toyota Sienna filter [Re: jhellwig]
jhellwig Offline


Registered: 07/01/13
Posts: 1567
Loc: Ottumwa, Iowa
Well the one I was working a deal on got sold out from underneath us. The salesman was out for a bit today and some other gal sold it without asking him. I know it sounds like a scam but it isn't.

I saw the filter deals on ebay and amazon. Looks like the way to go. I can even find some that include the filter wrench.

After seeing how the transmission fluid is checked the oil filter doesn't seam so bad.

From the looks of it the 17s have a combination of direct injection and port injection.


Edited by jhellwig (07/03/18 07:10 PM)
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#4804884 - 07/04/18 10:17 AM Re: 2017 Toyota Sienna filter [Re: jhellwig]
slacktide_bitog Offline


Registered: 03/20/08
Posts: 6378
Loc: USA
Mann and Mahle make good filters for the 2GR in your Sienna smile

Mahle OX414D1
Mann HU 7019z

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#4806205 - 07/05/18 08:08 PM Re: 2017 Toyota Sienna filter [Re: slacktide_bitog]
sdude2k2000 Offline


Registered: 12/02/04
Posts: 555
Loc: Southern Oregon, USA
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Mann and Mahle make good filters for the 2GR in your Sienna smile

Mahle OX414D1
Mann HU 7019z


I LOVE Mahle oil filters for the Toyota cartridge system. They have a rubber injected "o-ring" of sorts at each end of the filter to help seal to the housing. I believe it's a perfect OEM design... and only a couple dollars more than Toyota's OEM ($6ish -vs- $4ish). They even include the torque values for both the drain plug and cartridge housing in the package for quick reference. The only other filter I've seen use the o-rings is Toyota's own TRD synthetic filter that I'm currently running.


Edited by sdude2k2000 (07/05/18 08:09 PM)
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