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Year-Round Sale of E15 Gasoline #4752073
05/09/18 02:35 PM
05/09/18 02:35 PM
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Last edited by ramammoth; 05/09/18 02:36 PM.
Re: Year-Round Sale of E15 Gasoline [Re: ramammoth] #4752078
05/09/18 02:42 PM
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Not sure I can even comment on this without violating one or more rules here...


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Re: Year-Round Sale of E15 Gasoline [Re: ramammoth] #4752082
05/09/18 02:50 PM
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Must be to keep up corn consumption when the great trade war of '18 starts. Noticed constant ads on radio from Poet pushing this on a recent trip to Texas, although I guess most was on satellite radio.


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Re: Year-Round Sale of E15 Gasoline [Re: ramammoth] #4752094
05/09/18 03:02 PM
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Hasn't E15 been in the works for a long while now?

Iowa was at the table, looks like there's a balance of what's good for farmers and refiners.

Not sure what's best for either is also best for my car...

Re: Year-Round Sale of E15 Gasoline [Re: ramammoth] #4752105
05/09/18 03:18 PM
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Doesn't look like this does too much. I didn't know you couldn't buy E15 in summer in some places. Race Tracs sell E15 around here but it's only $.05 cheaper than E10. Pass.


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Re: Year-Round Sale of E15 Gasoline [Re: ramammoth] #4752137
05/09/18 04:00 PM
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Most cars say you can't go over E10. This won't end well.


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Re: Year-Round Sale of E15 Gasoline [Re: JHZR2] #4752157
05/09/18 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Hasn't E15 been in the works for a long while now?

Iowa was at the table, looks like there's a balance of what's good for farmers and refiners.

Not sure what's best for either is also best for my car...


It was pushed a while ago. It was thought that E15 was ok for cars made after 2001, but some automakers pushed back and said it wouldn't be good for their 2001+ cars so it kinda got tabled. It's been a few years now so maybe 2001+ isn't as important anymore as those cars age out of the fleet over time anyway.

Re: Year-Round Sale of E15 Gasoline [Re: mightymousetech] #4752192
05/09/18 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
Most cars say you can't go over E10. This won't end well.


Have you ever used 88 octane gas?

If so you probably bought e15

Weve had the stuff since 2004 on and off

In my cars I seem to gain a couple mpgs on the stuff and its 5 -10 cents cheaper per gallon

Re: Year-Round Sale of E15 Gasoline [Re: ramammoth] #4752204
05/09/18 05:27 PM
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I am confused by this. E15 has been available year round around here for a couple of years. Kum and gos have been putting pumps in all over for it.

I am not sure what the new benefit to refiners is. They have already been getting paid enough to blend it that they are increasing capacity to move it through the terminals.


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Re: Year-Round Sale of E15 Gasoline [Re: Rmay635703] #4752209
05/09/18 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: Rmay635703
Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
Most cars say you can't go over E10. This won't end well.


Have you ever used 88 octane gas?

If so you probably bought e15

Weve had the stuff since 2004 on and off

In my cars I seem to gain a couple mpgs on the stuff and its 5 -10 cents cheaper per gallon
How are you getting better mpgs with less energy per gallon vs E10?


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Re: Year-Round Sale of E15 Gasoline [Re: ramammoth] #4752215
05/09/18 05:35 PM
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here all regular grades of gasoline are upto 10% ethanol
and e85 is up to 85% (approximately)

IIRC they usually make e15 at the pump by blending

so since they are all UP TO % I'm not sure anyone knows exactly what they are buying.


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Re: Year-Round Sale of E15 Gasoline [Re: hatt] #4752221
05/09/18 05:41 PM
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Ottumwa, Iowa
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Originally Posted By: hatt
Originally Posted By: Rmay635703
Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
Most cars say you can't go over E10. This won't end well.


Have you ever used 88 octane gas?

If so you probably bought e15

Weve had the stuff since 2004 on and off

In my cars I seem to gain a couple mpgs on the stuff and its 5 -10 cents cheaper per gallon
How are you getting better mpgs with less energy per gallon vs E10?


My work truck gets better mileage with e10 verses e0.


Sparks fly from my fingers.

1995 Chevy K2500 Suburban lt 5.7
2014 Toyota Sienna
1983 Chevy K5 350
Re: Year-Round Sale of E15 Gasoline [Re: ramammoth] #4752254
05/09/18 06:15 PM
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If people have the option for E15, I feel that I should have the option to get E0 at the pump. OPE, boats, and cars manufactured before 2001 should not be using ethanol. This really does infuriate me.


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Re: Year-Round Sale of E15 Gasoline [Re: jhellwig] #4752261
05/09/18 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: jhellwig
Originally Posted By: hatt
Originally Posted By: Rmay635703
Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
Most cars say you can't go over E10. This won't end well.


Have you ever used 88 octane gas?

If so you probably bought e15

Weve had the stuff since 2004 on and off

In my cars I seem to gain a couple mpgs on the stuff and its 5 -10 cents cheaper per gallon
How are you getting better mpgs with less energy per gallon vs E10?


My work truck gets better mileage with e10 verses e0.
How long did you track this?


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2010 Camry 2.5, GTX 5W-20, Fram Ultra XG9972
Re: Year-Round Sale of E15 Gasoline [Re: hatt] #4752274
05/09/18 06:36 PM
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Ottumwa, Iowa
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Originally Posted By: hatt
How long did you track this?

2 to 3 tank fulls at various times over the last year over 40k miles. All the times I was checking this was in the same type of driving conditions. Every time I put in premium e0 it dropped at least 2 almost 3 mpg. I wasnt very scientific to give you accurate numbers but it was good enough to tell that there was a decrease in mileage. The few times I could get e10 93 octane it was looking like it was going to be closer to the e0 91 octane mpg but never Could get more than one consecutive tank full of it. This was in a 2016 2500 Silverado with the 6.0 flex fuel.

In my 2011 1500 5.3 flex fuel Silverado I had about a 2 mpg increase in mileage going from e10 to e0. Complete opposite of my work truck.


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2014 Toyota Sienna
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