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All in ones for $500ish? #4711698
03/30/18 04:21 PM
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I'm looking for a solid all in one desktop. Pretty brand neutral, although every HP and Compaq computer I've had haven't lasted beyond 3 years before getting slow and unusable. I think I'd prefer an Intel processor, I don't know why but I feel like AMDs are a cut below. Tell me if I'm wrong! It won't get used for anything super heavy duty, just internet/ MS Office etc. Thanks!


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Re: All in ones for $500ish? [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4711721
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Used mac...

Im typing from a 2010 macbook air.

Re: All in ones for $500ish? [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4711722
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AMD Ryzen CPU's are pretty darn good, but non Ryzen CPU's are dated. Intel is good for a drag race, but than blows up (slows down for no apparent reason) while AMD delivers consistent performance. Seriously, in the real world, AMD is better unless your thing is doing speed test which don't apply to real usefulness. Don't bother with a mechanical hard drive.


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Re: All in ones for $500ish? [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4711734
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Re: All in ones for $500ish? [Re: skyactiv] #4711737
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Originally Posted By: skyactiv
. Intel is good for a drag race, but than blows up (slows down for no apparent reason) while AMD delivers consistent performance.


Has not been my experience. I'd agree with AMD go Ryzen nothing older. With intel even cpu 5 years old are still competitively fast for desktop.

To the OP: do you really want an all in one? you can get a mini box and separate monitor much cheaper(or faster)... and easier to fix...most all-in-one pc use laptop parts(such as processor) that are slower than the desktop equivalents.


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Re: All in ones for $500ish? [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4711744
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Intel CPU
SSD or at least hybrid drive (SSD cached HDD)
not HP or Acer - stick to Dell, Asus, Lenovo...


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Re: All in ones for $500ish? [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4711750
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I'm not opposed to a desktop, but I like the space saving factor of the all in ones...plus the prices just seem better. Most tower's on BestBuy's site are around $400.


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Re: All in ones for $500ish? [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4711753
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Buy a refurb or used Dell Precision T3500 from Ebay.
It runs on Xeon processor Quad Core or Hexa Core, a little bit older but will last you a long time.
Only between $100 to $200 with 12 Gig memory and a large HD.
Some have a Workstation Graphic Card like NVidia Quadro or ATI Fire.

Then get a 24" or bigger LCD Screen which is another $100 to $200.

You get a very fast and strong computer for less than $400.

I bought one 3 years ago and it is still my main computer.


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Re: All in ones for $500ish? [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4711756
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HJ, IMO opinion, that one from BB is going to be pretty slow. The A6 is pre-Ryzen, and generally handicapped. Think Celeron equivalent, even an i3 will do much better.

If you're not in a big hurry, sign up for Dell's discount codes and watch their outlet. A couple years ago, I got the XPS-27 (gorgeous 2500x1600 resolution TOUCH screen) with a 2TB HDD, I7-3770T, GeForce GTX560, and 16GB of RAM on certified refurbished with a 30% off code for about $840 delivered. This was when the same computer, "brand new", was running about $1700. I stuck a Samsung 850 Pro 512GB SSD in it after about two years, and also added a 60GB mSATA drive set up as the virtual memory disk, and it's still a very viable daily-use computer. Obviously it's not up to the latest games, but considering when I bought it, you couldn't touch any 27", touch screen, 2500x1600 monitor for less than $650, well, the computer was basically free.

I say watch for a deal like this. It may be a little more up front, but I can guarantee you'll get much more pleasurable use out of an $800-900 AIO than you will from a sub-$500 one.

Re: All in ones for $500ish? [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4711761
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All in One goes into the trash all at once.

A good reason not to buy one.


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Re: All in ones for $500ish? [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4711765
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I would not advise an all in one ...having discrete monitor means you can upgrade that later by itself. Check out the dell Optiplex 3050 mini. We do them in our corp environment and they are fast lil machines. An M.2 SSD disk, I5 cpu and 8gb mem ~$550. Perfect for internet and office duty The box is 6" square and 2" thick. If you must have it as AIO they sell a bracket that mounts it to the back of a dell monitor for $35

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Re: All in ones for $500ish? [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4711796
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No one asked the obvious question. What are you going to do with it?

My experience has been that once you buy a computer that is decently speced, there is no point in upgrading it. the upgrade part is way faster than everythign around it and moved the bottleneck to another part of the machine.

As suggested get one with at least 4-8 gig RAM. SSD 250-500Gig is fine. most Intel I series processors have a decent video chip built in. For general purpose I would go I5-6600 not I7.

You can compare processors on www.userbenchmark.com to see how different computers compare.

Re: All in ones for $500ish? [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4711901
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Often times outside of a hardware failure, slowness after a few years is the fault of Windows. What version are you running? Have you tried a backup of your data and a reformat?

Never been an Intel guy - always feel they jack the price up on their mediocre processors and have been extremely anti-competitive. Only reason I ran them was because I was running Macs. Always build my own AMD machines (since the 486 days) and never an issue - just solid performance. Love my Ryzen 7 box - 8 cores and it's a screamer. Powers through everything I throw at it and has been rock solid.

Never been a fan of Dell - junk machines at nearly every price point. Always have been and probably always will be.

I've gone from AIO's (iMacs) to towers and like the flexibility the tower gives me with respect to monitors, drives, upgradeability, etc. I know how to crack the iMac open and have done so numerous times but the options are much better with a tower vs an AIO.

I'd look for an:
* AMD Ryzen CPU
* 4 or 8 GB RAM
* 256GB or 512GB SSD

The SSD alone will make your computer feel a million times better than any other upgrade.

Re: All in ones for $500ish? [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4711918
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I have been buying all my desktops from here, and have NEVER paid more than $129.

I buy a new one every 6 years.

https://www.dellrefurbished.com/desktop-computers


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Re: All in ones for $500ish? [Re: HoosierJeeper] #4712070
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Another fan of buying slightly used off-lease business desktops off ebay.

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