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Hy-Per lube oil additive #4707916
03/26/18 09:04 PM
03/26/18 09:04 PM
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Virginia
bbhero Offline OP
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Well I tried this oil additive due to reading about it on here. MolaKule stated it was a real deal additive that was actually worth using. Being the fact that MolaKule is one of the most knowledgeable people on this entire board (top 3 in my book) I felt very comfortable giving g this a go in the lady's Camry. Well between adding a whole 12 ozs of this Hy-Per lube and Federated Auto semi synthetic oil the motor was MUCH quieter than it had been on a 50/50 mix of Super S and Cam2 5w30. Very interesting was when the car was started right after changing the oil was the first half second the motion had that loud ticking... Then after the new oil and Hy-Per lube hit the top end of the motor... Way, way quieter. I am impressed. So.. if you got a loud motor.. give this Hy-Per lube a try. Ohh and only add 1 oz per qt of oil. Which I way over did it in this situation. So, when I got another bottle of Hy-Per lube it will be good for 3 oil changes in the 98 Camry. Got it on sale for $15. Between the cost of the Federated Auto semi synthetic oil and the Hy-Per lube it works out to $14 per run. Not too shabby smile

And when I did a drain and refill of my CVT fluid I will be getting Amsoil CVT fluid. Again because of MolaKule's help and recommendation plus cronk running it with no issues in his Nissan.


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Quaker State High Mileage 5w30 Purolator Boss 14610
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Re: Hy-Per lube oil additive [Re: bbhero] #4707965
03/26/18 09:59 PM
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I have also tried this additive. I got several bottles at ollies bargain hunt for $4.99 a piece. It does make the engine quieter, and I believe it is because the ester molecules make the oil more polar, so it clings better to the metal. Molakule also said that these polymeric esters can completely replace zddp and achieve lower wear numbers. The hyperlube polymer esters are made by AKZO chemicals, and have the trademark name Ketjenlube. Fuchs is a company who uses similar polymeric esters in their oils.

Re: Hy-Per lube oil additive [Re: bbhero] #4707970
03/26/18 10:05 PM
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
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I wonder if it's safe for wet clutch motorcycles?

Re: Hy-Per lube oil additive [Re: Reddy45] #4707973
03/26/18 10:07 PM
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bbhero Offline OP
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I don't believe so Reddy45... But I could be wrong.


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Re: Hy-Per lube oil additive [Re: bbhero] #4708039
03/26/18 11:51 PM
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I use it too. Polymer esters are fascinating.
https://books.google.com/books?id=9YXRBQ...ear&f=false

Re: Hy-Per lube oil additive [Re: bbhero] #4708044
03/27/18 12:05 AM
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Interesting stuff bbhero.


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Re: Hy-Per lube oil additive [Re: bbhero] #4708177
03/27/18 06:55 AM
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Upstate NY
Donald Online content
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Quality synthetic oil, no additives.


2015 Subaru Forester 2.5 engine/CVT
2015 Ford F250 w/Powerstroke
2016 Subaru Crosstrek CVT (wife's)
Re: Hy-Per lube oil additive [Re: bbhero] #4708225
03/27/18 08:10 AM
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I have a bottle sitting in the basement. Next oil change I might give it a try @ 1 ounce/quart of oil in one of my three vehicles and send it off for a UOA for comparison.


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Re: Hy-Per lube oil additive [Re: bbhero] #4708404
03/27/18 11:22 AM
03/27/18 11:22 AM
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If you are running an oil with low Phos and Zinc levels AND are tracking this product will help reduce wear.

Of course if you are using a racing oil with a high level of ZDDP, you don't need it.

DO NOT add it to ANY type of ATF no-no as it is both a friction modifier AND an AW, and can cause slippage in AT's because it changes the dynamic friction coefficients in ATF.


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Being the fact that MolaKule is one of the most knowledgeable people on this entire board (top 3 in my book)
Obviously he hasn't spoken to my wife or students. LOL





Last edited by MolaKule; 03/27/18 11:38 AM.

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Re: Hy-Per lube oil additive [Re: bbhero] #4708483
03/27/18 12:56 PM
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Thinking of trying this additive to deal with the noisy valvetrain in my Soul.


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M1 EP 10W-30; OEM Kia filter.
Re: Hy-Per lube oil additive [Re: bbhero] #4709093
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I was trying to find some recent info on this Ketjenlube 135 that is the primary component of this product and I came across this blog post from last October.

https://blog.sealandchem.com/the-5-reasons-ketjenlube


2017 Mazda CX-5 GT.

Valvoline Modern Engine 0w20
Mobil 1 EP 108A
Re: Hy-Per lube oil additive [Re: MolaKule] #4709900
03/28/18 06:11 PM
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Virginia
bbhero Offline OP
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Ohh yeah I would never add this to any ATF. That's why I told Reddy45 I did not think it was a good fit for the wet clutch set up.

And I have no doubt that you do a very good job as a educator. You do a good job on here in a setting where it is not the easiest setting to do it in.

And yeah I understand the wife deal. Even in stuff I do with my work I feel like my lady thinks I'm a idiot LOL
Which I tell her all the time... I'm not a moron.

The other day was tough.. my lady's grandmother passed on Saturday am. Very tough. Ms Betty did a whole whole lot for us. Including the 98 Camry she gave my wife. A perfectly maintained car that had only 66k miles on it when we got it 4 years ago. A great, great car. I drove it Sunday afternoon with my lady there. It was really nice. Made me happy in spite of a really tough tough loss. That car has a lot of meaning now. It really is a legacy car in a way. And I want it to be the best it can be. And with the Federated synthetic oil and Hy-Per lube it really had it run much quieter.


Nissan Altima 3.5 Coupe
Quaker State High Mileage 5w30 Purolator Boss 14610
"Treat your family like your friends and treat your friends like your family."
Re: Hy-Per lube oil additive [Re: bbhero] #4715512
04/03/18 07:37 PM
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Hy-Per Lube also has another additive called Oil Treatment that you can add in place of a quart of oil when you change it. Does this additive provide any real benefit as the above product for a daily driver as I have a 96 Ford Taurus that runs great, and I use it to and from work 12 miles one way with half being at least in stop and go traffic here in Austin TX. I change every 5,000 miles as it is easy to keep up with those intervals.

Last edited by mctmatt; 04/03/18 07:39 PM. Reason: corrections
Re: Hy-Per lube oil additive [Re: bbhero] #4715659
04/03/18 11:21 PM
04/03/18 11:21 PM
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One of members asked a very good question regarding copolymers and here was my answer:

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A copolymer is a series of seperate isomers linked together.

In the case of HyperLube Zinc replacement, it is a copolymer of alpha-olefin isomers and dibutylester isomers linked together.

The alpha-olefin isomers and dibutylester isomers are linked together via a reaction.

Last edited by MolaKule; 04/03/18 11:23 PM.

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Re: Hy-Per lube oil additive [Re: mctmatt] #4715662
04/03/18 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: mctmatt
Hy-Per Lube also has another additive called Oil Treatment that you can add in place of a quart of oil when you change it. Does this additive provide any real benefit as the above product for a daily driver as I have a 96 Ford Taurus that runs great, and I use it to and from work 12 miles one way with half being at least in stop and go traffic here in Austin TX. I change every 5,000 miles as it is easy to keep up with those intervals.


No, that product is solely an oil thickener, is only good for smokers, and has no place in well maintained engine that has used modern oils.

Last edited by MolaKule; 04/03/18 11:24 PM.

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