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Metal shavings in fram filter #4685950
03/06/18 08:19 AM
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I was changing the oil in my 2000 Z-28. When filling the filter some oil went into the smaller holes and some very tiny metal shavings could be seen.

I know these should be caught by the filter but I did not like what I saw.

Not bashing fram here just posted to see if anyone has seen the same thing even in other filters.

Re: Metal shavings in fram filter [Re: cven] #4685961
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I'm confused. You're supposed to fill the filter through the small holes. Although most have an anti drainback valve so this makes it hard to do.


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Re: Metal shavings in fram filter [Re: cven] #4685966
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I always fill through the center hole.

Last edited by cven; 03/06/18 08:37 AM.
Re: Metal shavings in fram filter [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4685972
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Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
I'm confused. You're supposed to fill the filter through the small holes. Although most have an anti drainback valve so this makes it hard to do.

You're not supposed to fill the filter through the outside holes, but you certainly can if you want to make things messier and way harder on yourself!

Where do you guys get this stuff? Jeez.

Re: Metal shavings in fram filter [Re: cven] #4685996
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Originally Posted By: cven
I always fill through the center hole.


+1 Same here. Fat chance I am trying hold the ADBV open so I can oil on the "dirty side" of the filter so no damaging particles from the new oil go right into the oil galley. Bull dinkies.


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Re: Metal shavings in fram filter [Re: cven] #4685999
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LOL ... that's what I was thinking.

Re: Metal shavings in fram filter [Re: cven] #4686002
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The person said some oil went into the small holes, not he was filling through the small holes. The person also said he wasn't bashing Fram.

Re: Metal shavings in fram filter [Re: cven] #4686024
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I know this post is about the shavings but Iíll stir the Bitog hornets next. I donít bother filling the filter anymore. Itís enough to be crawling underneath the car to worry about keeping the filter vertical while doing it. That filter fills up with oil in less than a second. Just another A retentive bitog procedure. Flame suit on!

Last edited by Snagglefoot; 03/06/18 09:46 AM.

If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Metal shavings in fram filter [Re: cven] #4686026
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I think fram may not media tumble after thread chasing so may be some particulate. I would prefer to see a clean tap with no curly's.

I Fill in center hole but only 1/3 to 1/2. Btter to send some oil don't to the pump with a squeeze bottle on horizontal applications ( like my Nissan) Do I do that? No. But I do fill down to the pump on the Subaru FB series - easy with the vertically mounted up side down on top of the engine - Just pour it in before screwing down the filter smile


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Re: Metal shavings in fram filter [Re: cven] #4686042
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Originally Posted By: cven
I always fill through the center hole.


Me too. Any other way is going to yield a mess. I'm not about to force the ADBV open and risk damaging or ruining that.


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Re: Metal shavings in fram filter [Re: demarpaint] #4686074
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Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: cven
I always fill through the center hole.


Me too. Any other way is going to yield a mess. I'm not about to force the ADBV open and risk damaging or ruining that.

When I do, it will be through the outlet hole. No mess and no risk of damaging the ADBV.


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Re: Metal shavings in fram filter [Re: cven] #4686273
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Always inspect and clean the filter mounting threads and base plate just to be safe. I can often find some kind of debris regardless of filter brand. I'll even remove and clean the base gasket and groove.

Re: Metal shavings in fram filter [Re: cven] #4686465
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Ya.... I always clean the threads but this stuff was under the baseplate and I'd never found it if I didn't spill some oil in the inlet holes.

Re: Metal shavings in fram filter [Re: cven] #4686472
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Originally Posted By: cven
Ya.... I always clean the threads but this stuff was under the baseplate and I'd never found it if I didn't spill some oil in the inlet holes.


If it's under the base plate on the ADBV side then it will be trapped in the media.

Re: Metal shavings in fram filter [Re: cven] #4686509
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I noted that in the OP.

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