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API SN --> API SN PLUS #4681726
03/01/18 06:53 PM
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wemay Offline OP
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18 Sportage 2.4L AWD: PP 10W30 + WIX 51334XP + e air WIX 10335
13 Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: M1EP 10W30 + OEM + e air WIX 49670

Re: API SN --> API SN PLUS [Re: wemay] #4681729
03/01/18 06:56 PM
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Thanks for that.

No thank you Mabel, I don't need that extra piece of pie.


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Re: API SN --> API SN PLUS [Re: wemay] #4681745
03/01/18 07:13 PM
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Is that accurate? I didn’t think they were relaxing any of the other specs


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Re: API SN --> API SN PLUS [Re: SilverFusion2010] #4681799
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Originally Posted By: SilverFusion2010
Is that accurate? I didn’t think they were relaxing any of the other specs
The only change is the LSPI part of the graph. The red and blue overlays are identical otherwise.

Re: API SN --> API SN PLUS [Re: wemay] #4681849
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I'm waiting on API SN Squared before I change.

Re: API SN --> API SN PLUS [Re: wemay] #4681866
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Thanks for posting wemay.

I am curious as to why the timing chain wear category is on the chart but not included as a improvement. Did they have it as a goal but were unable to come up with a solution in time?


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Re: API SN --> API SN PLUS [Re: wemay] #4681874
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I seem to be confused. How does oil have anything to do with Low Speed Pre Ignition? That sounds more like a engine design flaw.


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Re: API SN --> API SN PLUS [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta] #4681881
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Originally Posted By: FordBroncoVWJeta
I seem to be confused. How does oil have anything to do with Low Speed Pre Ignition? That sounds more like a engine design flaw.




They found that calcium was part of the problem, hence the new formulations with lower calcium and higher magnesium. Sodium was also targeted if I recall rightly.


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Re: API SN --> API SN PLUS [Re: wemay] #4681888
03/01/18 11:02 PM
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SN smeshN. Manufacturer specs and ACEA are what matters. API specs are for the lowest common denominator of motor oil.


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Re: API SN --> API SN PLUS [Re: wemay] #4681894
03/01/18 11:18 PM
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So like Dexos 1 gen 2?


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Re: API SN --> API SN PLUS [Re: PimTac] #4681926
03/02/18 01:00 AM
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wemay Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
Thanks for posting wemay.

I am curious as to why the timing chain wear category is on the chart but not included as a improvement. Did they have it as a goal but were unable to come up with a solution in time?


I believe d1G2 addresses timing chain. I wasn't aware SN Plus had the same goals.


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13 Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: M1EP 10W30 + OEM + e air WIX 49670

Re: API SN --> API SN PLUS [Re: wemay] #4681976
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Thanks Wemay, you are great at finding and sharing stuff like this.


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Re: API SN --> API SN PLUS [Re: SR5] #4682178
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wemay Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: SR5
Thanks Wemay, you are great at finding and sharing stuff like this.


You're most welcome.


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13 Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: M1EP 10W30 + OEM + e air WIX 49670


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