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Oil's "Nutritional Facts" #4681567
03/01/18 02:44 PM
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It would be cool if the oil companies were required to post a basic VOA of the contents on the jug similar to food products


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Re: Oil's "Nutritional Facts" [Re: Papa Bear] #4681580
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grin

It's an acquired taste, but if you're plugged up, a nice room temp 5W30 will ease things along....might leave a ring on the toilet bowl.


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Re: Oil's "Nutritional Facts" [Re: Papa Bear] #4681602
03/01/18 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: Papa Bear
It would be cool if the oil companies were required to post a basic VOA of the contents on the jug similar to food products

I disagree.

Knowing how much sugar, salt, vitamins, etc. is fairly clear as to what that food will do to you or provide for you.

The elemental concentrations provided by an ICP scan will not tell you the performance provided by a lubricant nor what it will do to engine. It could be very easily manipulated to make one product look great while others not so much when the exact opposite could be true.

Re: Oil's "Nutritional Facts" [Re: Papa Bear] #4681604
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Lol! These are billion dollar corporations. Oil companies my friend do whatever they want.


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Pajero!


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Re: Oil's "Nutritional Facts" [Re: Papa Bear] #4681650
03/01/18 05:14 PM
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I wish they would all publish:
- KV100
- KV40
- VI
- HTHS
- SA %
- TBN
- Noack %
- Zinc %
- Detergents used (Na, Mg, Ca %)
- Specifications ( SN , ACEA etc)
- CCS peformance ( cP at temp)

They all know this basic data, why can't they tell the consumer, they do want us to buy their products. They may be billion dollar companies, but if a billion consumers swing to one product or another, they want the swing to be towards them, not away from them. That's why they advertise.

Still, let's be real here, only the oil nerds on BITOG care. The average person wouldn't know SAPS from NOACK, and wouldn't care.


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Re: Oil's "Nutritional Facts" [Re: Pajero] #4681676
03/01/18 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: Pajero
Lol! These are billion dollar corporations. Oil companies my friend do whatever they want.


Respectfully,

Pajero!


That is why they would have to "be required" to put the ingredients on the label


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Re: Oil's "Nutritional Facts" [Re: Papa Bear] #4681695
03/01/18 06:23 PM
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
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I mean even the VOAs that get posted here are only ONE dimension of the oil. The UOAs tell a different story, but even that story is one drop in an ocean of ways the oil can be run.

Re: Oil's "Nutritional Facts" [Re: Papa Bear] #4681860
03/01/18 10:09 PM
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I just want pretty pictures and words that make me think the oil is the greatest. A pleasant scent would be nice to imprint pleasant thoughts in my mind when adding oil and doing oil changes. Then every time I smelled the oil I would get a warm fuzzy feeling. I may even buy oil on scent alone. smile

The problem with putting detailed info on the label is you would need to understand what it means. I bet most people would not know what it means or would not care.


Truth alone triumphs, not untruth.

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Re: Oil's "Nutritional Facts" [Re: Papa Bear] #4681885
03/01/18 10:56 PM
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MONKEYMAN, here you go. Can't get much more feel good and happy than this....


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Re: Oil's "Nutritional Facts" [Re: Papa Bear] #4681902
03/01/18 11:28 PM
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I like at. How did you know I like cats?


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Re: Oil's "Nutritional Facts" [Re: Papa Bear] #4681904
03/01/18 11:35 PM
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I bake my own sandwich bread so I know exactly what is in it. Maybe I should try baking my own oil. I'm a pretty good cook.


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Re: Oil's "Nutritional Facts" [Re: Papa Bear] #4681960
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Expect most people could care less about it. They barely care to change their oil.


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Re: Oil's "Nutritional Facts" [Re: Papa Bear] #4682211
03/02/18 11:35 AM
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Trouble is most information on food labels is misleading and often inaccurate. But most of us care more about what we put in our engines than our bodies.

Claud.

Re: Oil's "Nutritional Facts" [Re: SR5] #4682349
03/02/18 01:46 PM
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A lot of companies do publish that information, they are called product/technical data sheets. A lot are easy to find online.

Re: Oil's "Nutritional Facts" [Re: Claud] #4682458
03/02/18 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: Claud
Trouble is most information on food labels is misleading and often inaccurate.


Is it better to be mis-informed than un-informed ??... shrug


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