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#4653641 - 02/02/18 06:05 AM Bicycle Unlocked
das_peikko Offline


Registered: 01/01/18
Posts: 458
Loc: San Antonio, TX
At the grocery store tonight was a fairly nice Gary Fisher mountain bike leaning up against a support column unlocked. I stayed with it for about 10 minutes guarding it. After awhile I decided to take the bike into the store and hand it over to the customer service people. I told them the bike was outside leaning against the store unlocked and that it could get stolen real easy. Surprisingly, the customer service people were not very impressed and gave me the impression that I was being annoying. They let me leave it there though.

Was that the right thing to do?

I remember 15 years ago, I had a Specialized Stump Jumper Comp full suspension mountain bike locked to a city light post with a very stout padlock and a 7/16'' thick steel braided cable. After I came back to it after eating lunch as Ralley's hamburgers, the padlock was still there but the cable was cut and the bike was gone. I remember the sickening feeling I felt that day and it comes back to me from time to time.

I was trying to save somebody else from the same pain.

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#4653642 - 02/02/18 06:07 AM Re: Bicycle Unlocked [Re: das_peikko]
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Registered: 03/18/08
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Loc: South Florida
I had a Giant mountain bike stolen as a kid. It was an expensive lesson in just how miserable the world can be.
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#4653644 - 02/02/18 06:10 AM Re: Bicycle Unlocked [Re: das_peikko]
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
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No. You moved someone's bike. When they come looking for it it won't be where they put it and they'll assume it was stolen.

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#4653647 - 02/02/18 06:13 AM Re: Bicycle Unlocked [Re: das_peikko]
DuckRyder Offline


Registered: 10/20/05
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Loc: Atlanta
I generally try to leave other peoples stuff alone...

If the guy/gal who owns it doesn’t feel it is necessary to lock it up, what makes you think your judgement is superior to his/her judgment on the subject?
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#4653650 - 02/02/18 06:15 AM Re: Bicycle Unlocked [Re: eljefino]
das_peikko Offline


Registered: 01/01/18
Posts: 458
Loc: San Antonio, TX
Originally Posted By: eljefino
No. You moved someone's bike. When they come looking for it it won't be where they put it and they'll assume it was stolen.


But there's a good chance it might've gotten stolen for real.

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#4653652 - 02/02/18 06:16 AM Re: Bicycle Unlocked [Re: DuckRyder]
das_peikko Offline


Registered: 01/01/18
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Loc: San Antonio, TX
Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
I generally try to leave other peoples stuff alone...

If the guy/gal who owns it doesn’t feel it is necessary to lock it up, what makes you think your judgement is superior to his/her judgment on the subject?


Maybe the owner of the bike doesn't know how crooked the world is like I do.

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#4653654 - 02/02/18 06:17 AM Re: Bicycle Unlocked [Re: das_peikko]
Mr Nice Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
Posts: 21089
Loc: Orlando, FL
It could have been a 'bait bicycle' and cops near by watching....?

If not, the person was dumb to leave bicycle without cable and lock.


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#4653656 - 02/02/18 06:21 AM Re: Bicycle Unlocked [Re: Mr Nice]
das_peikko Offline


Registered: 01/01/18
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Loc: San Antonio, TX
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
It could have been a 'bait bicycle' and cops near by watching....?


Or it could have been one of those hidden camera television shows where the person gets awarded a million dollars for going above and beyond the call of civil duty. grin2

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#4653671 - 02/02/18 06:40 AM Re: Bicycle Unlocked [Re: das_peikko]
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 32494
Loc: ME
Or it could have been owned by a gang member.

If you found a 4 year old kid loitering would you move him/her?

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#4653674 - 02/02/18 06:49 AM Re: Bicycle Unlocked [Re: das_peikko]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 29569
Loc: NY
I tend to mind my own business, especially in some of the areas that surround me.
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#4653676 - 02/02/18 06:51 AM Re: Bicycle Unlocked [Re: das_peikko]
madRiver Offline


Registered: 07/11/15
Posts: 3456
Loc: New England
No one's safety was compromised. Just a material good not a person in need. Let it go. Maybe it was stolen in the first place and 2nd owner did not care.

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#4653680 - 02/02/18 06:56 AM Re: Bicycle Unlocked [Re: das_peikko]
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Registered: 12/30/06
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I had my Redline BMX bike stolen from my parent's house when I was 13,out of the garage. From then on I always kept my bikes in the house,and still do. Thieves should be publicly executed.
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#4653697 - 02/02/18 07:34 AM Re: Bicycle Unlocked [Re: das_peikko]
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Registered: 06/05/03
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1. Who owned it? You have no clue so who are you watching it for? 2. Anyone that rides a bike knows to lock it up. Most likely its a bait bike and you messed up the cops sting operation. Now one has to go get it and replant it again
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#4653714 - 02/02/18 08:02 AM Re: Bicycle Unlocked [Re: das_peikko]
IndyIan Offline


Registered: 09/23/08
Posts: 9041
Loc: Ontario, Canada
It must've been stolen already and the guy riding it left it there. Hopefully the customer service people turned it in to the police at the end of the day. I've left my bike unlocked outside a store but only where I could see it from inside.
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#4653715 - 02/02/18 08:07 AM Re: Bicycle Unlocked [Re: das_peikko]
raytseng Offline


Registered: 12/11/08
Posts: 2314
Loc: CA
This is a philosophy question however unless you are a precog or you know for sure something is wrong you should let things lie and play out as if you were not there.

There are stories where well intentioned humans causing things to be worse than if the human did nothing or wasnt there. Especially when dealing with nature like picking up a baby animsl they think needs helpn or putting tortoises who can't swim into the water where they drown.
From your view you were sure the bike would be stolen, but that's a distorted view. The probability of that happening in reality is low even in high crime area. Who are you to say that the bike owner didnt already do all thesr mental calculations.

Also the cust service owes you nothing and they owes the bike owner nothing. There is no social contract that the store is running a bike check. Nobody asked you to do it. If you spent your time doing this that was your choice to do so, without any expectation of gratitude and even indifference or annoyance response due to the breach of social norms. You are now asking customer service to do something for a non present owner who maybe didnt want it anyway.

By the way Your actions are very similar to the first steps of a common con, so you are the one acting strangely.


Edited by raytseng (02/02/18 08:11 AM)

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