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17 F150 3.5 v2 Eco, 9632 miles, 19220 total #4628596
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UOA #2 from my '17 F150

Looking good.
Happy with the fuel dilution and TBN.
This is the full syn 5/30 Magnatec.

Last UOA

For those interested:
Sample mailed 12/15/17
Dropped of tracking 12/18/17
re appeared 12/31/17
Delivered 1/2/18
Sample posted 1/8/18





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Re: 17 F150 3.5 v2 Eco, 9632 miles, 19220 total [Re: KJSmith] #4628603
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Is this 3.5 the dual port and direct injected version?

Re: 17 F150 3.5 v2 Eco, 9632 miles, 19220 total [Re: KJSmith] #4628604
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Nice looking report, Magnatec continues to impress in EB 3.5 engines, what oil filter was used?


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Re: 17 F150 3.5 v2 Eco, 9632 miles, 19220 total [Re: wwillson] #4628605
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Originally Posted By: wwillson
Is this 3.5 the dual port and direct injected version?


2017+ should all be the 12 injector, port and direct 3.5 EB Gen 2.


Luke
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Re: 17 F150 3.5 v2 Eco, 9632 miles, 19220 total [Re: KJSmith] #4628627
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Looks great. Your wear metals should be cleaned out now. The next UOA should be very good.

I hope these 2nd Gen EBís donít beat up oil as badly as the 1st gen. Then again, Magnatec is magical unicorn juice for these motors. I canít wait to get to that stuff in my stash.

Thanks for the UOA!


2016 F-150 3.5L Ecoboost
Current Oil: Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 and Fram Ultra filter
Re: 17 F150 3.5 v2 Eco, 9632 miles, 19220 total [Re: wwillson] #4628628
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Originally Posted By: wwillson
Is this 3.5 the dual port and direct injected version?


Yes sir.
It even idles right.

Re: 17 F150 3.5 v2 Eco, 9632 miles, 19220 total [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4628629
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Originally Posted By: FlyNavyP3
Nice looking report, Magnatec continues to impress in EB 3.5 engines, what oil filter was used?


Motorcraft FL500s.

Re: 17 F150 3.5 v2 Eco, 9632 miles, 19220 total [Re: KJSmith] #4628644
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Looks like they are putting titanium in the Magnatec now too.

Re: 17 F150 3.5 v2 Eco, 9632 miles, 19220 total [Re: Carbon12] #4628650
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Originally Posted By: Carbon12
Looks like they are putting titanium in the Magnatec now too.


I didn't catch that. Thanks

Checked the older UOA's I have.
It looks like it started with the change to full syn.

Re: 17 F150 3.5 v2 Eco, 9632 miles, 19220 total [Re: KJSmith] #4628863
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Breaking in well, oil still serviceable.

Re: 17 F150 3.5 v2 Eco, 9632 miles, 19220 total [Re: KJSmith] #4628868
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I would have never run the original fill that long.


The "thinking" man's friend.
Re: 17 F150 3.5 v2 Eco, 9632 miles, 19220 total [Re: KJSmith] #4628923
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My memory could be faulty here, but I don't think Magnatec 5W30 was a low calcium formulation as of a year or two ago...this must be the dexos1 Gen 2 version.


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M1 5W30 d1G2
Tokyo Roki 15208AA170 filter
Re: 17 F150 3.5 v2 Eco, 9632 miles, 19220 total [Re: KJSmith] #4628927
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Break in wear still coming down.
Looks good; trending well.

Regardless of the intent (of which you and I may disagree) of the injection strategy, the end result is less fuel dilution overall. This and other UOAs on these "new" 2nd gen EBs shows the engines are receiving less raw fuel in the crankcase. Whereas I contend that the dilution has never been as horrific as some panic-stricken folks would claim, the reality of having less dilution can only be described as desirable.

Motor on!


The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
Re: 17 F150 3.5 v2 Eco, 9632 miles, 19220 total [Re: dnewton3] #4628984
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Originally Posted By: dnewton3
Break in wear still coming down.
Looks good; trending well.

Regardless of the intent (of which you and I may disagree) of the injection strategy, the end result is less fuel dilution overall. This and other UOAs on these "new" 2nd gen EBs shows the engines are receiving less raw fuel in the crankcase. Whereas I contend that the dilution has never been as horrific as some panic-stricken folks would claim, the reality of having less dilution can only be described as desirable.

Motor on!


Iíll suggest it is too early to make that declaration. All the EB motors with fuel dilution that I can remember seeing here on the forum were higher mileage engines. Iím approaching 30k miles and have yet to see any fuel dilution. We might still see dilution issues on this motor as they wear in more, say 50,000 miles.


2016 F-150 3.5L Ecoboost
Current Oil: Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 and Fram Ultra filter
Re: 17 F150 3.5 v2 Eco, 9632 miles, 19220 total [Re: Onug] #4629358
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Originally Posted By: Onug
Originally Posted By: dnewton3
Break in wear still coming down.
Looks good; trending well.

Regardless of the intent (of which you and I may disagree) of the injection strategy, the end result is less fuel dilution overall. This and other UOAs on these "new" 2nd gen EBs shows the engines are receiving less raw fuel in the crankcase. Whereas I contend that the dilution has never been as horrific as some panic-stricken folks would claim, the reality of having less dilution can only be described as desirable.

Motor on!


Iíll suggest it is too early to make that declaration. All the EB motors with fuel dilution that I can remember seeing here on the forum were higher mileage engines. Iím approaching 30k miles and have yet to see any fuel dilution. We might still see dilution issues on this motor as they wear in more, say 50,000 miles.


I've seen no evidence that accumulation of miles makes for higher dilution. I would disagree with your assessment.

However, and this is more important, regardless of the dilution, the wear rates don't change much ovearll. My point being; the topic of dilution is moot. With the 2nd gen EBs, it will be one less thing people can complain about.

Last edited by dnewton3; 01/09/18 02:37 PM.

The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
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