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Why is my cartridge filter getting crushed? #4608172
12/19/17 11:36 AM
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Shown in the photo is the Mobil1 M1C-151A cartridge filter that came out of my Equinox yesterday. The interior plastic frame seemed undamaged and intact. The cap on the housing can only be screwed in so far so I don't think it's from over tightening. Why did this happen? Is this common in these types of filters?



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Re: Why is my cartridge filter getting crushed? [Re: BobsArmory] #4608174
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I suspect a fitment issue- the cartridge is slightly too long. Try an ACDelco Filter.


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Re: Why is my cartridge filter getting crushed? [Re: BobsArmory] #4608180
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I'd blame cellulose fiber swelling from absorbing oil. We don't always see that, but sometimes.
As long as there aren't any Purolator-style tears or holes in the media, its fine.

Re: Why is my cartridge filter getting crushed? [Re: BobsArmory] #4608188
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This happens on my 2012 equinox. I use ACdelco filters or Bosch Distance +. Never a tear or anything overly concerning. It is annoying that they do that. It does not always do that just sometimes.


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Re: Why is my cartridge filter getting crushed? [Re: BobsArmory] #4608205
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Are you snapping it into the cap before placing it in the housing?


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Re: Why is my cartridge filter getting crushed? [Re: dishdude] #4608212
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Originally Posted By: dishdude
Are you snapping it into the cap before placing it in the housing?


Yep


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Re: Why is my cartridge filter getting crushed? [Re: BobsArmory] #4608213
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If this continues, try changing the oil filter housing cap. The bypass valve is in this piece and it may be sticking. The cap is sold with the filter and O ring at GM dealers or online AC Delco. Don't have the part number handy.

Re: Why is my cartridge filter getting crushed? [Re: BobsArmory] #4608221
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Originally Posted By: BobsArmory
Is this common in these types of filters?.....

Looks like an ecotec filter cartridge, if so, it's not all that an uncommon result from many brands.

As suggested, some say putting cartridge in cap first helps. You did that. Might try OEM ACDelco, however I've even seen some anecdotes of them looking similar.

Most obvious answer would seem to be a fitment issue, but if that's the case it happens to many. Try an ACDelco cartridge, see if it has better results.

Re: Why is my cartridge filter getting crushed? [Re: BobsArmory] #4608250
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Looks like a cousin of Purflux smile If it is just distorted, and not tearing as a result, I wouldn't worry about it as long as it seals top and bottom. I've seen Ultras do that in Germans(?), so not too sure about the cellulose theory.


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Re: Why is my cartridge filter getting crushed? [Re: BobsArmory] #4608981
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I sent an email to mobil using the web based form. No way to attach a photo to the inquiry. It will be interesting to see what they say. If I get a response I'll let you know what they have to say.


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Re: Why is my cartridge filter getting crushed? [Re: oil_film_movies] #4608999
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Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
I'd blame cellulose fiber swelling from absorbing oil. We don't always see that, but sometimes.
As long as there aren't any Purolator-style tears or holes in the media, its fine.


This is an M1 with 10k miles (from 3.5L ecoboost) running 5w40 it is a blend of cellulose & synthetics


Re: Why is my cartridge filter getting crushed? [Re: The Critic] #4609263
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Originally Posted By: The Critic
I suspect a fitment issue- the cartridge is slightly too long. Try an ACDelco Filter.


This. ^


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Re: Why is my cartridge filter getting crushed? [Re: BobsArmory] #4609319
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I always used the AC Delco in my Ecotecs and they never came out looking like this. The AC Delco is made by Hengst, it's a quality filter and maade by the same company that designed the housing.


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Re: Why is my cartridge filter getting crushed? [Re: Starman2112] #4609346
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Originally Posted By: Starman2112
Originally Posted By: The Critic
I suspect a fitment issue- the cartridge is slightly too long. Try an ACDelco Filter.


This. ^


Ditto.

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Re: Why is my cartridge filter getting crushed? [Re: The Critic] #4609475
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Originally Posted By: The Critic
I suspect a fitment issue- the cartridge is slightly too long. Try an ACDelco Filter.


approved

M<any aftermarket cartridges are a bit too long and buckle in service.

ONLY use these filters for the Ecotecs using that style filter:
Hengst E630H
Mann HU 6007x
Purflux L264A
ACDelco PF457G (which is made by Hengst)
ACDelco PF458G (filter plus end cap and O-ring) You do not need to replace the cap every OCI

The OE supplier used to be Purflux, but they are now made by Hengst.

The PF457G does NOT include an O-ring! All the others do.

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