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Christmas greed or capitalism? #4601279
12/12/17 07:27 AM
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ZZman Offline OP
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Just watched a report where hot toys were snapped up by people and resold for much higher prices again this year. What have we become?


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Re: Christmas greed or capitalism? [Re: ZZman] #4601282
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"Hot toys" of the season, are only for those who succumb to marketing. When my son was young we never had to have whatever the current fad was. He learned early not to want things just because others wanted or had them.

That way it does not matter. Never had to worry about getting something so in demand.

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Re: Christmas greed or capitalism? [Re: ZZman] #4601283
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Originally Posted By: ZZman
What have we become?


Don't condemn all of society by the actions of a few.


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Re: Christmas greed or capitalism? [Re: ZZman] #4601290
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Buy low sell high. How is this any different than how many billion dollar corporations operate? Call it greed if you like. I give credit to those who are entrepreneurial. They took a gamble on purchasing large quantities of a product. The risk is the fad dies too quick and they are stuck with product no one wants. Fidget spinners anyone?


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Re: Christmas greed or capitalism? [Re: ZZman] #4601297
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Nothing wrong with greed or capitalism. They are often hand in hand.


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Re: Christmas greed or capitalism? [Re: Leo99] #4601305
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Originally Posted By: Leo99
Nothing wrong with greed or capitalism. They are often hand in hand.


Greed: intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth, power, or food.

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Re: Christmas greed or capitalism? [Re: ZZman] #4601311
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100% capitalism at work.

Some folks who are hard at work busy making money do not have the time to pay attention to trends as they emerge in November and December nor to hunt down the desired gift. They pay for the privledge of waiting for the trends to fully emerge.

OTOH, not all of these middlemen make out and some actually lose money. That too is capitalism at work. I recall one Christmas outside Macy's in New York City with a bunch of these middlemen selling one of the toys that was hot and in short supply two weeks earlier, but were no longer hot and easily available for less inside the stores. I did not feel sorry for them as there is risk when one seeks out a reward in capitalism and not all ventures turn out as hoped.

Re: Christmas greed or capitalism? [Re: ZZman] #4601318
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I see this as wrong just like when people snap up lots of concert tickets and sell them for much higher prices. It often locks out the little guy or less fortunate.


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Re: Christmas greed or capitalism? [Re: spasm3] #4601320
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Originally Posted By: spasm3
He learned early not to want things just because others wanted or had them.


Letís be honest. Kids want things, but many kids realize that their parents will never buy them the more expensive games/toys that they see their friends playing with. My wife buys my kids everything they want, which [censored] me off because spoiled kids grow up rotten while less spoiled kids grow up more well rounded, in my opinion.


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Re: Christmas greed or capitalism? [Re: ZZman] #4601324
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The person that sells those toys is taking noney from someone willing to pay for it..unlike the person who takes un-needed welfare paid by folks that don't want their money to pay for it.


Re: Christmas greed or capitalism? [Re: ZZman] #4601326
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On pure principle I wouldn't pay the higher price. I would tell my kids I will buy you one after Christmas when the price is reasonable.


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Re: Christmas greed or capitalism? [Re: ZZman] #4601334
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If you're dumb enough to give your kid anything they want regardless of price you're dumb enough to pay that price.


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Re: Christmas greed or capitalism? [Re: ZZman] #4601340
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I always got everything I wanted, but I never wanted anything, so I never got anything, and that is what I wanted anyway.
I guess I was one of the lucky few.

Re: Christmas greed or capitalism? [Re: ZZman] #4601343
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But I would like some free Rotella.

Re: Christmas greed or capitalism? [Re: BalticBob] #4601360
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Originally Posted By: BalticBob
But I would like some free Rotella.


BB... You crack me up!


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