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#4595208 - 12/05/17 03:52 PM Shelf life of motor oils???
anotheroldguy Offline


Registered: 12/04/17
Posts: 6
Loc: Florida
Hi Guys,
I am a newbie on this forum, so please be gentle...

A few days ago, I sent this email to Shell/Pennzoil Motor Oil:

"About six years ago, I moved, and apparently, I misplaced 5 one quart bottles of Platinum Full Synthetic SAE 5 W 30 motor oil. I just found them a couple of days ago. Very soon I will be due for my next oil change on my "Pride and Joy". Since this particular car has an eight quart capacity crankcase, I am 3 quarts short. My question to you is if I could safely mix or combine this "old" oil with three quarts of "new" oil. I remember reading somewhere that now Pennzoil synthetizes their oil from natural gas rather than from conventional oil stocks. I have no idea what the synthesis procedure was six years ago. I just want to make sure that this "two different oils" are miscible with one another and that I WILL NOT harm my engine."
The answer was short and sweet, somewhere along the lines of: Pennzoil Motor Oil has a shelf life of four years.We recommend you dump this oil and buy new one.

What do you guys think? Can I still safely use it or not? We are talking retail price of about $40.00 to just simply "Dump".

Thanks for your help.

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#4595211 - 12/05/17 03:54 PM Re: Shelf life of motor oils??? [Re: anotheroldguy]
Vladiator Offline


Registered: 01/04/16
Posts: 738
Loc: NC
You can safely use it. Pennzoil only tells you what their lawyers want them to tell you. Reality is - you are perfectly safe. Use it with confidence.
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#4595218 - 12/05/17 03:59 PM Re: Shelf life of motor oils??? [Re: anotheroldguy]
StevieC Offline


Registered: 08/21/08
Posts: 17116
Loc: Ontario, Canada
welcome to BITOG!

Go ahead and use it. It's fine.
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#4595225 - 12/05/17 04:05 PM Re: Shelf life of motor oils??? [Re: anotheroldguy]
PimTac Offline


Registered: 03/04/17
Posts: 4628
Loc: Soviet State of Washington
GIve it a good shake before opening. What is your “Pride and Joy”?
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#4595231 - 12/05/17 04:10 PM Re: Shelf life of motor oils??? [Re: anotheroldguy]
OneEyeJack Offline


Registered: 09/14/10
Posts: 7485
Loc: S California
You might want to be aware of the oil spec. And older spec oil would not be appropriate for some modern engines.

In a worst case, there's always the lawn mower. The oil won't go bad just sitting there and as PimTac suggested, give it a good shake.

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#4595238 - 12/05/17 04:25 PM Re: Shelf life of motor oils??? [Re: anotheroldguy]
JohnnyJohnson Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 2899
Loc: Wet side WA
Shelf life is likely longer than you're going to live!
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#4595243 - 12/05/17 04:39 PM Re: Shelf life of motor oils??? [Re: anotheroldguy]
sir1900 Offline


Registered: 03/12/09
Posts: 1589
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan
Assuming it meets your vehicle's specs, then yes, go ahead and use it.

Welcome to BITOG. I think you'll like it here.
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#4595244 - 12/05/17 04:43 PM Re: Shelf life of motor oils??? [Re: anotheroldguy]
Chris142 Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 16966
Loc: Deplorable in apple valley, ca
Look at how long oils sit and are used in the car. I am sure that there are 50s and 60s cars that still have their original oils in the axles and trans etc... a few years sitting on your shelf isnt anything.
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#4595262 - 12/05/17 05:15 PM Re: Shelf life of motor oils??? [Re: anotheroldguy]
NormanBuntz Offline


Registered: 07/27/13
Posts: 2165
Loc: Outer Banks, NC
Any Pennzoil employee telling you that its synthetic oil has a four year shelf life is a nitwit. Make sure it has the right API rating for your vehicle, and give it a good shake before pouring.
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#4595263 - 12/05/17 05:17 PM Re: Shelf life of motor oils??? [Re: anotheroldguy]
SilverSnake Offline


Registered: 05/29/13
Posts: 616
Loc: Florida
There are many BITOG members who will tell you to use oil in sealed containers regardless of age. They tend not to believe anything the oil companies say. Everything the oil companies say or do is a conspiracy to sell you more oil. The same members will also tell you that getting the maximum number of miles or the most time out of an oil change is paramount. They would have you spend all your oil change money on UOAs to prove that old oil is still good. Some of these members will also tell you that 50 year oil in the crankcase of a barn find is perfectly good. IMO if you care about your vehicle, give the old oil to one of the members I mentioned above and buy some new oil for your car.


Edited by SilverSnake (12/05/17 05:18 PM)
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#4595276 - 12/05/17 05:34 PM Re: Shelf life of motor oils??? [Re: anotheroldguy]
Artem Offline


Registered: 10/30/10
Posts: 5137
Loc: Florida
Send a sample for analysis, just for kicks and giggles.

If it was a beater, I wouldn't hesitate. But for a "pride and joy" automobile... I'd buy new Lube.
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#4595293 - 12/05/17 05:50 PM Re: Shelf life of motor oils??? [Re: anotheroldguy]
K23Turbo Offline


Registered: 02/05/09
Posts: 225
Loc: Pennsylvania
Use every last drop of your old stock. Mix away.

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#4595295 - 12/05/17 05:51 PM Re: Shelf life of motor oils??? [Re: anotheroldguy]
blupupher Offline


Registered: 08/27/04
Posts: 4487
Loc: Katy, Republic of Texas
Sealed bottle stored inside (not exposed to severe temp extreme cycles), I would use it so long as it met the vehicle spec.

Last year I had some Pennzoil Platinum (Pre GTL) made in 2009 that I used in my car. I had no worries about using it.
No, I did not do a VOA or UOA on it. I had no question about it.
I have a stash of oil that will be almost as old or older when I finally use it, not concerned one bit.

I remember some place did some VOA and UOA on oil that had been sitting on the shelf for 30 years and it was fine.
I think Valvoline says a 5 year shelf life.

It is a sue happy world, and they are only covering their rear ends.
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#4595331 - 12/05/17 06:33 PM Re: Shelf life of motor oils??? [Re: blupupher]
Dallas69 Offline


Registered: 02/11/14
Posts: 1677
Loc: Texas
The worst that can happen is additives may settle to the bottom which is why we shake the bottles.
Shake and pour baby.
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#4595336 - 12/05/17 06:37 PM Re: Shelf life of motor oils??? [Re: anotheroldguy]
johnchui1984 Offline


Registered: 11/14/17
Posts: 45
Loc: Richmond VA, Washington DC
I think if the seal is not broken, the oil is ok to use. Just shake the oil before pouring it into your engine smile
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