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Draining oil hot or cold questions? #4585323
11/26/17 09:22 AM
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ZZman Offline OP
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1. Do you normally drain your oil hot, warm or cold?

2. If oil thins when cold and thickens when hot, why does hot oil drain quicker?

* I drain my oil hot.

Last edited by ZZman; 11/26/17 09:27 AM.

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Re: Draining oil hot or cold questions? [Re: ZZman] #4585326
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3. I drain it warm.

Re: Draining oil hot or cold questions? [Re: ZZman] #4585329
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You should drain oil right after turning off a warmed up engine, because:
1. Contaminates are still in suspension, and have not had time to settle into the pan or separate out
2. Less initial start-up wear, after the change

Cold oil may drain faster because it is all in the pan. Warm oil needs to drain down off the top of the engine and galleries.


Last edited by knerml; 11/26/17 09:29 AM.

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Re: Draining oil hot or cold questions? [Re: Bottom_Feeder] #4585331
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Originally Posted By: Bottom_Feeder
3. I drain it warm.


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Re: Draining oil hot or cold questions? [Re: ZZman] #4585332
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Originally Posted By: ZZman
If oil thins when cold and thickens when hot, why does hot oil drain quicker?


Oil thickens when cold, just like the vast majority of other liquids. It drains better when hot, because it's thinner. Having driven the vehicle recently also mixes the oil, so if anything had settled out, it will likely be picked up and carried out the drain hole with the rest of the oil.


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Re: Draining oil hot or cold questions? [Re: ZZman] #4585333
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Originally Posted By: ZZman
1. Do you normally drain your oil hot, warm or cold?

I extract it when warm/hot.

Quote:
2. If oil thins when cold and thickens when hot, why does hot oil drain quicker?

Oil does not thin when cold. Oil thickens when cold.


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Re: Draining oil hot or cold questions? [Re: ZZman] #4585344
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Yep, I extract my oil when it’s warm after a nice drive. Oil extractor is way to go smile


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Re: Draining oil hot or cold questions? [Re: ZZman] #4585346
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Originally Posted By: ZZman
2. If oil thins when cold and thickens when hot, why does hot oil drain quicker?


Lol is that a trick question?

Re: Draining oil hot or cold questions? [Re: ZZman] #4585351
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Originally Posted By: ZZman

2. If oil thins when cold and thickens when hot, why does hot oil drain quicker?


A multigrade oil fights its normal tendency to thin when hot, but isn't completely successful, and still thins out.

Re: Draining oil hot or cold questions? [Re: ZZman] #4585353
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When hot with oil/particulates in suspension.


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Re: Draining oil hot or cold questions? [Re: ZZman] #4585363
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What ever it is at the time. If I've been driving it recently it will be warm/hot if not cold. I'm not going to go out of my way to drain a slightly warmer oil.

Vehicle hasn't imploded yet.

Re: Draining oil hot or cold questions? [Re: ZZman] #4585369
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Depends on the circumstances. If I get to work early I will drain it hot. If the truck is due and I dont have time I will do it cold in the parking lot before I go home.


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Re: Draining oil hot or cold questions? [Re: ZZman] #4585382
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Preferably within 10 minutes of shut-down. I'll drain one cold rather than luke-warm. The longer it can drain the better.


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Re: Draining oil hot or cold questions? [Re: knerml] #4585387
11/26/17 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted By: knerml
You should drain oil right after turning off a warmed up engine, because:
1. Contaminates are still in suspension, and have not had time to settle into the pan or separate out


This actually takes a long time to happen.

I drain mine after a highway trip, and about 30-40 minutes cool down.
I don't wait for it to stop dripping - plug in, new oil in, and running again before it ever cools down completely.


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Re: Draining oil hot or cold questions? [Re: ZZman] #4585389
11/26/17 10:18 AM
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Position ramps, start motor, drive on ramps, turn off.
Gather wrenches, funnel, oil, shop towels, hand cleaner …
Position oil filter/oil for photo and snap odometer pic too …

Now at scientifically proven drain temp ~ go for it …


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