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What do you think of a 9 year old "new" vehicle? #4581521
11/21/17 11:35 PM
11/21/17 11:35 PM
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OneEyeJack Offline OP
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2008 Scion xB

Never put into service, has 1,131 miles. Is the warranty good from the date of purchase by the first retail owner? Has the warranty been compromised by the lack of service?

A 9-year-old new vehicle, interesting.

Re: What do you think of a 9 year old "new" vehicle? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4581526
11/21/17 11:40 PM
11/21/17 11:40 PM
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It has almost 1200 miles on it. It's not new, but used.

And still costs too much....


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Henry Ford
Re: What do you think of a 9 year old "new" vehicle? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4581530
11/21/17 11:49 PM
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Where has the car been all these years without being driven ? And why wasn't it driven ?

Re: What do you think of a 9 year old "new" vehicle? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4581543
11/22/17 12:41 AM
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I have a lot of experience with all sorts of vehicle Les that have had stupendously low usage over many years. Cars, boats, heavy equipment, RVs, etc.

I have one thing to say about these machines:

Run.

Sitting around without being used is not good for machines. Once you start using them frequently, all of the monsters are going to come out of the cracks.

Rather have one with 80k miles on it.

In the world of automotive appraisal, a car's value is inversely proportional to the amount of miles it has, but reality doesn't always agree.

One of my first jobs as a teenager was taking care of a warehouse full of 18-20 super survivor (108-2031 miles) muscle cars and "modern classics". Fuel lines opening up for no God given reason at all. Brake seals, oil seals, and batteries doing the same. Any diaphragm was always up for grabs. Anything that was supposed to move just might not anymore. Electrical issues nobody could explain the cause of.

RVs were the worst. 10 years old and 11k miles. Oh boy! Nicer they looked for their age, more issues they seemed to have.


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Re: What do you think of a 9 year old "new" vehicle? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4581566
11/22/17 03:30 AM
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It has about 125 miles/ year on it. Was it driven a little bit each year, or was it driven for maybe a month then parked and sat still? I don't think the car simply sat still for 9 years. Can you gather some background info on its usage? If it was driven even 100 miles/year, that would be enough to keep things moving. If so, I would buy it.

Re: What do you think of a 9 year old "new" vehicle? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4581574
11/22/17 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
2008 Scion xB

Never put into service, has 1,131 miles. Is the warranty good from the date of purchase by the first retail owner? Has the warranty been compromised by the lack of service?

A 9-year-old new vehicle, interesting.


It's listed as used and no warranty.


It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that ain't so.

- mistakenly attributed to Mark Twain
Re: What do you think of a 9 year old "new" vehicle? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4581597
11/22/17 05:23 AM
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The warranty is in effect but powertrain expired by time so that idea thrown out the window. Maybe a small warranty like air bags or rust is still in effect.

The asking price $12,900 is stupid for this likely $15,000 new MSRP. But there are idiots out there who think low miles despite years blind them into buying. Especially the buyer interested in this type of weird car. A USA Toyota exec had right reaction when the Scion xB was introduced to them, "When do the clowns jump out?".

Re: What do you think of a 9 year old "new" vehicle? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4581600
11/22/17 05:27 AM
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Scion's are made by Toyota but they have had a very poor record for longevity and consumption of oil. This list goes on. I'm a big Toyota fan but I wouldn't touch a Scion. Besides that car is butt ugly.

https://www.carcomplaints.com/Scion/

Last edited by JohnnyJohnson; 11/22/17 05:30 AM.

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Re: What do you think of a 9 year old "new" vehicle? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4581620
11/22/17 06:05 AM
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I'd consider it a 9 year old used car or demo, and price it accordingly, if I were to consider buying it. If I liked the car I might even pay a slight premium, slight, but that's about it.


God Bless Our Troops

Re: What do you think of a 9 year old "new" vehicle? [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4581622
11/22/17 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Scion's are made by Toyota but they have had a very poor record for longevity and consumption of oil. This list goes on. I'm a big Toyota fan but I wouldn't touch a Scion. Besides that car is butt ugly. https://www.carcomplaints.com/Scion/


And that alone is reason enough not to by this car.


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Re: What do you think of a 9 year old "new" vehicle? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4581624
11/22/17 06:07 AM
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Not sure about the reliability, but those XB's had a lot of legroom for a small car and did real well with MPG. A very practical vehicle.

Re: What do you think of a 9 year old "new" vehicle? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4581766
11/22/17 10:29 AM
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The land of USA-made Subies!
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My brother is a mechanic and also flips used cars on the side. He said he puts way less effort and money into the cars that average 15-20k a year with someone who does maintenance vs. Granny who puts 1500-2000 miles per year and does maintenance only when something breaks. Plus he actually is able to sell the higher mileage cars for a decent price... he recently sold a 1999 Civic with 283k and no rust for $2200 and it ran like a top.

Perfect example: my grandma bought a 1991 Lumina brand new. Garage kept all its life. She passed in late 2007, the car had about 3100 miles total and less than about 500 miles in its last two years. It needed all new injectors, a fuel pump, brake lines, at least one caliper froze, I'm sure it needed intake gaskets, etc.... it was a mess. He ended up selling for about $1300, which was probably way less than the time, effort, and parts it took to even make it halfway reliable at that point. But boy, was it cherry to look at! smile

Re: What do you think of a 9 year old "new" vehicle? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4581776
11/22/17 10:45 AM
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My brother in law picked up an interesting car in this case. A 2015 Golf TDI brand new in 2017 with under 75 miles with a factory backed extended warranty as long as VW has them for under $17k with 0% financing included too. It retailed in mid $20's.

He really likes this car as 45 min each way commuter and the associated 50MPG. His previous ride was Corolla so massive comfort upgrade.

Re: What do you think of a 9 year old "new" vehicle? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4581778
11/22/17 10:48 AM
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Kalifornia Kollective
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You are in SoCal so the "no-rust" premium does not apply. It's just a used car out here. Offer them $7,500 if you really want it ...


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: What do you think of a 9 year old "new" vehicle? [Re: OneEyeJack] #4581808
11/22/17 11:25 AM
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N.H, U.S.A.
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Test drove one. Not a great car. Bought a Yaris instead.
Interesting concept with the big Camry engine, Cool dashboard, vanagon-esque capability but it somehow doesn't come together as a good vehicle. Fair at best fuel mileage too.

The The Previous generation with small engineand tossable chassis was the better car.

Run away from this.

I Do like the dashboard with the "Rally" Gages though:)



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