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#4572185 - 11/12/17 07:25 PM Heated washer fluid
michaelluscher Offline


Registered: 10/07/12
Posts: 2419
Loc: Staten Island, NY
Something I didn't think I would want/need

Until I put it in today

Cleans the windshield quite well, and that morning frost is removed faster then waiting for the engine to heat up and defroster to take action

Just give it a good power and ground (pulls 60 amps peak)

Put it in line to your washers, purge the air and it turns on and off automatically



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#4572198 - 11/12/17 07:31 PM Re: Heated washer fluid [Re: michaelluscher]
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Registered: 06/29/11
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Interesting. I'd be slightly worried about cracking glass. What's the output temp?
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#4572212 - 11/12/17 07:50 PM Re: Heated washer fluid [Re: michaelluscher]
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Registered: 12/29/14
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AlphaTherm is a reincarnation of the company that went bankrupt when GM recalled their product for fire risk... crzy

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#4572231 - 11/12/17 08:02 PM Re: Heated washer fluid [Re: michaelluscher]
i_hate_autofraud Offline


Registered: 05/19/16
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Loc: Canada


Is there a fuse that goes with it? Some heated washer fluid systems as add-ons where
known to catch fire, often when the car was parked!

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#4572264 - 11/12/17 08:44 PM Re: Heated washer fluid [Re: michaelluscher]
Rand Offline


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Loc: NE,Ohio
Would be nice if there was a link to this product or its name?
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#4572291 - 11/12/17 09:26 PM Re: Heated washer fluid [Re: Ethan1]
michaelluscher Offline


Registered: 10/07/12
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Loc: Staten Island, NY
Originally Posted By: Ethan1
AlphaTherm is a reincarnation of the company that went bankrupt when GM recalled their product for fire risk... crzy


This is true, but I haven't heard any bad things about the redesigned models

AlphaTherm AT-38OD Windshield Washer Fluid Heater https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0034GW1WW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i9qcAb7XYQSJD

It's fused for 60 amps, and has (6 or 8 AWG?) wires

Apparently, Crimestopper (car alarm people) sell one now too, but it's not as prominent

It does kinda sound like a tea kettle when heating up, but hardly disconcerting

They claim internal heating temps of 140-150F, output at around 110-120F

After seeing it and feeling it, I doubt it'd damage a windshield

I'm more concerned about my cheap Safelite windshield

The heater doesn't start until it sees 13 volts +, so it won't work with a weak alternator, or key on engine off

And I wouldn't leave a trickle charger on it that spikes voltage
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#4572299 - 11/12/17 09:45 PM Re: Heated washer fluid [Re: michaelluscher]
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The 528e has heated nozzles.
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#4572341 - 11/13/17 12:56 AM Re: Heated washer fluid [Re: michaelluscher]
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Registered: 04/27/12
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The Mercedes E-350 also has heated windshield washer fluid as standard equipment.

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#4572412 - 11/13/17 06:21 AM Re: Heated washer fluid [Re: SilverFusion2010]
Astro14 Offline


Registered: 10/10/10
Posts: 8529
Loc: Virginia Beach
Originally Posted By: SilverFusion2010
Interesting. I'd be slightly worried about cracking glass. What's the output temp?


I wouldn't worry about that. Mercedes has had heated washer fluid for decades. My 1992 300E had a coolant loop to heat the fluid. My 2005 S600 has a similar set up. Heated fluid washes well, and in very cold weather, there isn't that flash freeze/frost that you get with cold fluid.
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#4572416 - 11/13/17 06:26 AM Re: Heated washer fluid [Re: michaelluscher]
Cujet Offline


Registered: 02/15/03
Posts: 7144
Loc: Jupiter, Florida
I used to wrap small tubing (like 1/4 inch vinyl tubing) around the upper radiator hose, in a nice neat spiral about a foot long. Then cover it neatly with tape. This heated the squirter fluid nicely and worked really well once the engine was warm.

Now there are devices that do this by tying into the heater hose.

[img]https://www.landcruiserclub.net/community/attachments/washer1-jpg.20220/[/img]

And the electric devices are "on demand" only, so they are fairly instant. BTW, heated fluid cleans bugs more effectively! Even in warm climates.


Edited by Cujet (11/13/17 06:33 AM)
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#4572459 - 11/13/17 07:38 AM Re: Heated washer fluid [Re: michaelluscher]
fenixguy Offline


Registered: 02/08/17
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Loc: NC
I just now found out this is a thing and now I want one...
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#4572509 - 11/13/17 08:36 AM Re: Heated washer fluid [Re: michaelluscher]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
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Loc: Upstate NY
I use the de-icer windshield fluid.
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#4572547 - 11/13/17 09:13 AM Re: Heated washer fluid [Re: michaelluscher]
GMBoy Offline


Registered: 11/22/04
Posts: 7702
Loc: Texas
My 2008 Cadillac CTS has heated washer fluid - factory equipped. Many other GM vehicles had it as well.

BUT! They issued a recall due to a fire risk on all GM models equipped. The supplier went bankrupt so no fix could be made so GM offered a measily $100 cash payment to allow dealers to disable it. I refused because the system is so nice and I have insurance. Never heard of a single fire happening, was just a design risk I guess.

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#4573193 - 11/13/17 07:42 PM Re: Heated washer fluid [Re: GMBoy]
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Registered: 10/07/12
Posts: 2419
Loc: Staten Island, NY
Originally Posted By: GMBoy
My 2008 Cadillac CTS has heated washer fluid - factory equipped. Many other GM vehicles had it as well.

BUT! They issued a recall due to a fire risk on all GM models equipped. The supplier went bankrupt so no fix could be made so GM offered a measily $100 cash payment to allow dealers to disable it. I refused because the system is so nice and I have insurance. Never heard of a single fire happening, was just a design risk I guess.


Way back when, my grandmother had leased a '08 DTS (down to the landau top and chrome wheel's w/vouges)

It was Gold Mist over Miami beige leather

I remember them removing the washer fluid and cutting her a check

If you want my opinion, I'd do this

-Get the recall done and get a check
-Replace it with the new and improved safer yet hotter unit
-Make $20~ in the process

http://www.alphathermusa.com/heatedwash-AT-37GM.html
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#4573478 - 11/14/17 06:46 AM Re: Heated washer fluid [Re: michaelluscher]
GMBoy Offline


Registered: 11/22/04
Posts: 7702
Loc: Texas
Originally Posted By: michaelluscher
Originally Posted By: GMBoy
My 2008 Cadillac CTS has heated washer fluid - factory equipped. Many other GM vehicles had it as well.

BUT! They issued a recall due to a fire risk on all GM models equipped. The supplier went bankrupt so no fix could be made so GM offered a measily $100 cash payment to allow dealers to disable it. I refused because the system is so nice and I have insurance. Never heard of a single fire happening, was just a design risk I guess.


Way back when, my grandmother had leased a '08 DTS (down to the landau top and chrome wheel's w/vouges)

It was Gold Mist over Miami beige leather

I remember them removing the washer fluid and cutting her a check

If you want my opinion, I'd do this

-Get the recall done and get a check
-Replace it with the new and improved safer yet hotter unit
-Make $20~ in the process

http://www.alphathermusa.com/heatedwash-AT-37GM.html



Oh wow! I never knew that existed and a great idea! Thank you!

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