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Boy have things changed!! #4536332
10/07/17 03:19 PM
10/07/17 03:19 PM
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Galveston,Texas
rbraughn Offline OP
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I am ashamed to say It's been 11 years since my last post, but boy am I surprised to see what I am reading here now.

When I last frequented the boards, the FL820s for my f150 was highly regarded on this forum, and Fram filters were spawned by the Devil.....Seems the roles have reversed now.

I came back to review the oils and filters recommended for my 2017 F150 3.5L Ecoboost...... I am glad to be back and look forward to learning all of the new technology.

Re: Boy have things changed!! [Re: rbraughn] #4536337
10/07/17 03:21 PM
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Well... hold on tight. laugh

Last edited by Alex_V; 10/07/17 03:22 PM.

To quote a friend, "Synthetics, man."

'85 GMC C3500, 454, 132K
'82 Mercedes 300CD, OM617 turbo, 173K (totaled 2018, in rehab)
'85 Mercedes 300TD, OM617 turbo, 217K (wife's)
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Re: Boy have things changed!! [Re: rbraughn] #4536341
10/07/17 03:25 PM
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I thought this was gonna be a thread about young women running around in their bras now.

Re: Boy have things changed!! [Re: rbraughn] #4536342
10/07/17 03:27 PM
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I'm Tearolatorfied because my Corolla is going to fall apart momentarily its been on the dreaded Tearolators for the last 6 years with 114,000 plus miles. Should I break in to tears now?


2004 Corolla 126884
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74478
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: Boy have things changed!! [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4536350
10/07/17 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
I'm Tearolatorfied because my Corolla is going to fall apart momentarily its been on the dreaded Tearolators for the last 6 years with 114,000 plus miles. Should I break in to tears now?
Yes. You bet on the wrong horse. Not your fault. Don't worry, just switch to some other brand. Fram Ultra, MicroGreen, Royal Purple, Amsoil EaO, Mobil1 Ext Perf, Wix, Napa Gold, Fram ToughGaurd, in that order, are choices. Plenty there. No reason to reward Puro for making awful filters.

Re: Boy have things changed!! [Re: rbraughn] #4536352
10/07/17 03:38 PM
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Mahzurrah!
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Mahzurrah!
Welcome back. You should get an award for still having your log in 11 years later!

For your truck I'd suggest Castrol Magnatec 5w30.

I have used more Frams than any other filter for over 3 decades, never a problem. That said the quality control of Frams in general has notably improved the last 5-7 years IMO. My favorite is the Tough Guard, I feel comfortable running them 10k (yes I have cut) and that is as far as I am likely to go on an OCI anyway.


2018 VW Passat GT VR6 - 1k - New FF
12 KIA Sedona 93k - PP HM 10w30
09 Ford Focus 132k - Supertech FS HM 5w30
00 Chev Lumina 203k - Supertech FS HM 5w30
04 Jeep Grand Cherokee gone but not forgotten.
Re: Boy have things changed!! [Re: oil_film_movies] #4536353
10/07/17 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
I'm Tearolatorfied because my Corolla is going to fall apart momentarily its been on the dreaded Tearolators for the last 6 years with 114,000 plus miles. Should I break in to tears now?
Yes. You bet on the wrong horse. Not your fault. Don't worry, just switch to some other brand. Fram Ultra, MicroGreen, Royal Purple, Amsoil EaO, Mobil1 Ext Perf, Wix, Napa Gold, Fram ToughGaurd, in that order, are choices. Plenty there. No reason to reward Puro for making awful filters.


Oh I did change from the Purolator Pure 1 to the Purolator One. I'll worry when it starts using more than a 1/2 pint of oil in an OCI.


2004 Corolla 126884
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74478
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: Boy have things changed!! [Re: rbraughn] #4536354
10/07/17 03:39 PM
10/07/17 03:39 PM
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Galveston,Texas
rbraughn Offline OP
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You guys crack me up !! I will say girls in bras are more exciting than my post though grin

Re: Boy have things changed!! [Re: rbraughn] #4536381
10/07/17 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: rbraughn
I am ashamed to say It's been 11 years since my last post, but boy am I surprised to see what I am reading here now.

When I last frequented the boards, the FL820s for my f150 was highly regarded on this forum, and Fram filters were spawned by the Devil.....Seems the roles have reversed now.

I came back to review the oils and filters recommended for my 2017 F150 3.5L Ecoboost...... I am glad to be back and look forward to learning all of the new technology.


I come and go on this forum periodically over the years. I was also surprised to see that Purolator is now shamed and Fram is top-dawg. I remember in 2007-2008 Fram was hated on severely!


'90 Z32 - PP HM 10w30
'98 ZJ - PYB HM 10w40
'02 G20 - QS UD 5w30
'09 Matrix - QS UD 0w20
Re: Boy have things changed!! [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4536390
10/07/17 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
I'm Tearolatorfied because my Corolla is going to fall apart momentarily its been on the dreaded Tearolators for the last 6 years with 114,000 plus miles. Should I break in to tears now?

Keep using filters that might tear, it's obviously the smart thing to do if they work so well. Someone has to keep Purolator going - "Nothing Gets By Us". wink

Re: Boy have things changed!! [Re: Merkava_4] #4536398
10/07/17 04:59 PM
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Dallas,Tx USA
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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I thought this was gonna be a thread about young women running around in their bras now.


laugh Which I'm hoping that'll evolve into "braless" laugh


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Pennzoil Platinum 5W20

Re: Boy have things changed!! [Re: ZeeOSix] #4536439
10/07/17 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
I'm Tearolatorfied because my Corolla is going to fall apart momentarily its been on the dreaded Tearolators for the last 6 years with 114,000 plus miles. Should I break in to tears now?

Keep using filters that might tear, it's obviously the smart thing to do if they work so well. Someone has to keep Purolator going - "Nothing Gets By Us". wink
This guy^ can predict the future. Just ask him.

Re: Boy have things changed!! [Re: rbraughn] #4536445
10/07/17 06:04 PM
10/07/17 06:04 PM
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Washington, USA
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The 2nd Gen EcoBoost uses FL-820s? If it uses the FL-500 like my 1st gen EB, then those havenít been too bad. Iíve cut a few of mine open and not had any issues. But they are made by Purolator, so thereís that risk.

The 1st gen has a tendency to shear down the oil and is at risk for fuel dilution. Most of the used oil analysis (UOA) for the 1st gen motor have these issues, but I havenít seen a spike in wear metals as a result (that I can remember). I hope the new platform is going to fix these issues, but time will tell. My recommendation is to run a 5,000 mile cycle and do a UOA to see how things are holding up.

There are a lot of good oils these days, and it can be hard (or fun) to pick one. The oil that seems to hold up the best in the 1st gen motor is Castrol Magnatec. There are quite a few UOAs posted here where the oil was run for a full cycle (approaching 10,000 miles) and itís held up very well. You shouldnít have a problem finding it for less than $20/5-qts (Walmart or Amazon). We havenít seen very many (any?) UOAs for the new motor, but Iíd start with Magnatec and go from there.

Congrats on the new truck and welcome back to the forum.


2016 F-150 3.5L Ecoboost
Current Oil: Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 and Fram Ultra filter
Re: Boy have things changed!! [Re: aquariuscsm] #4536450
10/07/17 06:06 PM
10/07/17 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I thought this was gonna be a thread about young women running around in their bras now.


laugh Which I'm hoping that'll evolve into "braless" laugh


Awaiting pics smile


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Re: Boy have things changed!! [Re: HerrStig] #4536452
10/07/17 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted By: HerrStig
This guy^ can predict the future. Just ask him.

My prediction of the future is that you'll make continuing snide remarks in all threads discussing torn filters. laugh

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