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#4521284 - 09/20/17 01:19 PM United Airlines 747 Sendoff
DeepFriar Offline

Registered: 10/31/13
Posts: 1388
Loc: Georgia
UAL is doing something nice to mark the passage of the 747 from passenger revenue service - A last flight from San Fran to Honolulu which was the first flight almost 50 years ago. Quite a run.

#4521299 - 09/20/17 01:29 PM Re: United Airlines 747 Sendoff [Re: DeepFriar]
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Registered: 10/22/15
Posts: 2454
Loc: Balearic Islands , Spain
The 747 is doomed sadly, just like the rest of 4 engined airliners... the A380 isn't doing that much better.
More modern fuel efficient aircraft like the A350 and B787 are what's hot, and the new versions of the A320 and B737 family.
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#4521302 - 09/20/17 01:31 PM Re: United Airlines 747 Sendoff [Re: DeepFriar]
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Registered: 08/18/04
Posts: 3277
Loc: Raleigh ,NC CSA
I remember seeing 'retired' 747's at Miami international. Apparently they fly cargo to and from South America.
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#4521316 - 09/20/17 01:42 PM Re: United Airlines 747 Sendoff [Re: DeepFriar]
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Registered: 07/03/17
Posts: 1291
Loc: Douglas County, Colorado
The best use for retired 747's?;action=click

I have been almost directly underneath the DC-10 version on a dump, but the 747 is a whole new level.

#4521324 - 09/20/17 01:50 PM Re: United Airlines 747 Sendoff [Re: DeepFriar]
knerml Offline

Registered: 04/05/05
Posts: 492
Loc: NE Ohio
Since 747s where originally designed as passenger AND cargo planes, this seems right.

The cargo design aspect is what moved the cockpit above the main fuselage, so that large freight can be loaded through the nose.
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#4521401 - 09/20/17 02:59 PM Re: United Airlines 747 Sendoff [Re: DeepFriar]
Kestas Offline

Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 12400
Loc: The Motor City
Carriers also find that instead of having large airplanes that can hold a lot of passengers at once, they have more flexibility scheduling with smaller airplanes that can add more flights and/or serve more cities.

#4521410 - 09/20/17 03:16 PM Re: United Airlines 747 Sendoff [Re: DeepFriar]
6starprez Offline

Registered: 02/25/12
Posts: 533
Loc: North Carolina
What a coincidence, took a picture of one a few hours ago returning troops to Fort Bragg. Much nicer looking than the one I flew on from Chicago when I PSC'ed to Hawaii in 1995.

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#4521416 - 09/20/17 03:37 PM Re: United Airlines 747 Sendoff [Re: DeepFriar]
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I was in a 747 last week flying back from Germany on Lufthansa. Plane looked very new on the inside. Looking at it from the terminal, it's a beast of a plane. Huge! Very comfy in business class. Flew an old 747 in economy to China 5 years ago. Not so comfy.
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#4521417 - 09/20/17 03:40 PM Re: United Airlines 747 Sendoff [Re: Leo99]
4WD Offline

Registered: 09/21/10
Posts: 6579
Loc: Texas
Lufthansa was launch customer for the B747-800 Intercontinental

#4521436 - 09/20/17 04:13 PM Re: United Airlines 747 Sendoff [Re: DeepFriar]
nthach Offline

Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 3994
Loc: California
The 747-8F/I will stick around for a bit, BA hasn't retired their 744s... yet. The newer examples of the 400s will keep flying for a bit.

Boeing was converting passenger 744s to cargo config, but it looks like the 777 Freighter is making inroads at FedEx and UPS.

#4521437 - 09/20/17 04:15 PM Re: United Airlines 747 Sendoff [Re: 6starprez]
nthach Offline

Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 3994
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: 6starprez

I have to say, it's been a long time since I flew United. 20 years ago on a SFO-SYD round trip with the old grey paint scheme and "tulip" logo.

The new United, well Continental scheme looks great on an old plane.

#4521441 - 09/20/17 04:22 PM Re: United Airlines 747 Sendoff [Re: nthach]
4WD Offline

Registered: 09/21/10
Posts: 6579
Loc: Texas
I'm on an United Dreamliner long haul flight next week - they are good - and even though I have been on several A380's I don't like the Middle East "hub" concept - more options on direct flights is what I look for ...

#4521560 - 09/20/17 06:43 PM Re: United Airlines 747 Sendoff [Re: DeepFriar]
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Registered: 08/05/02
Posts: 14270
Loc: Silicon Valley
Big airplanes with hub and transfer is not as desirable as point to point, more frequent flights. P2P flights can charge more, and more frequent schedule reduces your "blast radius" from delays and cancellations.

I usually am willing to pay $50 more for p2p flights over a transfer for a domestic, international probably $100 more.

Edited by PandaBear (09/20/17 06:44 PM)
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#4521579 - 09/20/17 07:02 PM Re: United Airlines 747 Sendoff [Re: DeepFriar]
Carmudgeon Offline

Registered: 04/26/05
Posts: 558
Loc: Under the hood
The 747-8F will still be around. I've seen a couple of the few 8Is that are flying, but no domestic carrier has ordered them.

I've been lucky enough to have unimpeded access to a 400 while it was in the maintenance shed. Fabulous plane, and as graceful as the A380 is not.

But for most people, they're all pretty much the same, especially if you're stuck in economy.

#4521594 - 09/20/17 07:15 PM Re: United Airlines 747 Sendoff [Re: DeepFriar]
NHGUY Offline

Registered: 10/09/11
Posts: 5062
Loc: USA
Now way todays planes will last that long.Not a chance.

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