Recent Topics
How are these Road Force values?
by mclasser. 12/13/18 05:19 PM
Finally broke down a bought a trailer
by BeerCan. 12/13/18 04:25 PM
What oil for '19 Subaru WRX?
by TKNY. 12/13/18 04:12 PM
Splitting wedges
by buck91. 12/13/18 04:00 PM
Avoiding rust in the rust belt states?
by Chris B.. 12/13/18 03:00 PM
Joey Logano and the 2019 Mustang
by Malo83. 12/13/18 02:40 PM
BMW LL01FE Spec
by The Critic. 12/13/18 02:03 PM
I Tried and Failed to Not Buy a New Car
by badtlc. 12/13/18 01:49 PM
OEM Brand Coolant by Rocochem
by NumbersGuy. 12/13/18 01:15 PM
Motomaster Dexron Vi Fully Synthetic
by Gannet167. 12/13/18 12:55 PM
Hacked
by Smoky14. 12/13/18 12:41 PM
Scanning for U codes.
by LeakySeals. 12/13/18 12:23 PM
Food photography trickery
by nthach. 12/13/18 11:29 AM
oil for 2.5 2013 vw passat?
by jstert. 12/13/18 09:47 AM
Newest Members
lordcheeto, WondrousBread, slickoo9, turntable_life, Poles19
66670 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
97 registered members (Balrog006, bdcardinal, AndyB, Bbonez, BeerCan, 10 invisible), 1,816 guests, and 42 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums67
Topics295,035
Posts4,926,481
Members66,670
Most Online2,553
Oct 27th, 2018
Donate to BITOG
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
main bearing issue #4519365
09/18/17 10:53 AM
09/18/17 10:53 AM
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,854
SD
zrxkawboy Offline OP
zrxkawboy  Offline OP
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,854
SD
This is a new one for me, but I haven't rebuilt a large number of engines, so looking for input from the pros. This is a stock rebuild of the 230 flathead 6 in my '57 Plymouth. I checked the bearing clearances with Plastigage, and all clearances look good. However, the Plastigage actually left an impression in the main bearings! Yes, there's an impression in the surface that I can see and actually feel, and it was caused by the Plastigage. I was really surprised, as I've never seen this before. The rod bearings did not do this.

I had ordered the bearings (and most other parts) from Falcon Global. Everything else was name-brand, but the bearings were in a plain package with no print, save a hand-written part # and size.

Opinions, please...thanks!


"Think of all the Ford owners who will someday want an automobile." John Dodge

Re: main bearing issue [Re: zrxkawboy] #4519374
09/18/17 11:01 AM
09/18/17 11:01 AM
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 8,806
Texas
440Magnum Offline
440Magnum  Offline
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 8,806
Texas
The old flatheads might have originally spec'd pretty soft bearings with a lot of capacity to safely embed small particles, since the oil filters were partial-flow and oil was pretty poor back then. I'm a little surprised they were THAT soft, though, given that the Plymouth engines did have full pressure lubrication all the way back to the early 1930s, unlike GM.

Its been many years since I fooled with a Chrysler or Plymouth flathead, so I can't honestly tell you that I remember that level of softness one way or the other. I think I'd be inclined to try to find a set of more name-brand main bearings and compare before I risked running those.


'66 Dodge Polara & '69 Dodge Coronet R/T both 440/727
'08 Ram 1500 4.7/545RFE
'12 Challenger SRT8 392/6-speed
'99 XJ 4x4 4.0/AX15, '14 WK2 4x4 3.6/8HP
Re: main bearing issue [Re: zrxkawboy] #4519383
09/18/17 11:14 AM
09/18/17 11:14 AM
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,689
Charlotte, NC
Oldmoparguy1 Offline
Oldmoparguy1  Offline
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,689
Charlotte, NC
Originally Posted By: zrxkawboy
This is a new one for me, but I haven't rebuilt a large number of engines, so looking for input from the pros. This is a stock rebuild of the 230 flathead 6 in my '57 Plymouth. I checked the bearing clearances with Plastigage, and all clearances look good. However, the Plastigage actually left an impression in the main bearings! Yes, there's an impression in the surface that I can see and actually feel, and it was caused by the Plastigage. I was really surprised, as I've never seen this before. The rod bearings did not do this.

I had ordered the bearings (and most other parts) from Falcon Global. Everything else was name-brand, but the bearings were in a plain package with no print, save a hand-written part # and size.

Opinions, please...thanks!

Are you sure you have the right bearings? A 57 should be new enough to use tri-metal bearings.


A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day:
If Noah had used Zip, he could have used a smaller boat.
Re: main bearing issue [Re: zrxkawboy] #4520785
09/19/17 09:43 PM
09/19/17 09:43 PM
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,854
SD
zrxkawboy Offline OP
zrxkawboy  Offline OP
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,854
SD
Update: I showed one of the bearings to my machinist. He said he had seen this before and as long as the crank spins fine after assembly, he wouldn't hesitate to run them. Not what I expected to hear, but he's always done good work for me and given me sound advice.


"Think of all the Ford owners who will someday want an automobile." John Dodge


BOB IS THE OIL GUY® Powered by UBB.threads™