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Different requirements Taurus V6 and Navigator V8n #4517379
09/15/17 08:33 PM
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TX south plains
cadfaeltex Offline OP
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I now have 2 Ford products that both spec 5W20 - though they are quite different.

I recently inherited a 2014 Ford Taurus SEL 3.5L V6 with 3,300 miles. My Grandmother only drove it about 7 miles to the grocery store and though I don't know exactly how often she had it serviced I suspect it was often.

Add that to my wife's '14 Lincoln Navigator L 5.4 3v V8 with 22k miles.

One uses an Iolm for 7,500 to 10k/1 year OCI while the other has 7,500/6 month OCI.

So is there an oil you'd recommend for both?

Re: Different requirements Taurus V6 and Navigator V8n [Re: cadfaeltex] #4517386
09/15/17 08:43 PM
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Still under warranty?

Re: Different requirements Taurus V6 and Navigator V8n [Re: cadfaeltex] #4517389
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network down, IP packets delivered via UPS -BOFH
Re: Different requirements Taurus V6 and Navigator V8n [Re: cadfaeltex] #4517397
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M1 0-20 has performed very well in my last three Fords.


2007 Ford Fusion 233,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 58K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and Valvoline LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: Different requirements Taurus V6 and Navigator V8n [Re: cadfaeltex] #4517424
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If they aren't burning oil a 5w20 is fine. If you're burning oil a 5w30 will probably help


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: Different requirements Taurus V6 and Navigator V8n [Re: bigj_16] #4517444
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cadfaeltex Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Still under warranty?


Both just out of warranty.

Re: Different requirements Taurus V6 and Navigator V8n [Re: cadfaeltex] #4517478
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Out of warranty, no brainer, move up to a 5 or even 10w30 full synthetic.. I doubt you'll miss the 0.25 mpg hit

Re: Different requirements Taurus V6 and Navigator V8n [Re: Ammofirst] #4517488
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Originally Posted By: Ammofirst
Out of warranty, no brainer, move up to a 5 or even 10w30 full synthetic.. I doubt you'll miss the 0.25 mpg hit


Don't understand why I'd want to have higher viscosity on the 'lower' side of the oil rating?

Last edited by cadfaeltex; 09/15/17 11:19 PM.
Re: Different requirements Taurus V6 and Navigator V8n [Re: cadfaeltex] #4517509
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Lots of benefits to 10w-30. I've been running full synthetic 10w-30 for 12 years or so. Lower Noak / More Shear Stable / fewer Vll / most have a higher HTHS number (not all) : Mobil 1 10w-30HM HTHS is 3.5 : Don't fear the bleeper

Re: Different requirements Taurus V6 and Navigator V8n [Re: Ammofirst] #4517526
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Originally Posted By: Ammofirst
Lots of benefits to 10w-30.


Most the people on this board are scared to death of 10W-30.

Re: Different requirements Taurus V6 and Navigator V8n [Re: Merkava_4] #4517530
09/16/17 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Most the people on this board are scared to death of 10W-30.


10W30 is just soooooo thick!! I use that molasses in my 300ZX. On cool south Texas mornings I make sure to use a block heater to avoid startup wear.


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W20

Re: Different requirements Taurus V6 and Navigator V8n [Re: aquariuscsm] #4517547
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
10W30 is just soooooo thick!! I use that molasses in my 300ZX. On cool south Texas mornings I make sure to use a block heater to avoid startup wear.


Is that the Pennzoil Platinum 10W-30 that Gena sent you ? You haven't sent it to Blackstone yet ?

Re: Different requirements Taurus V6 and Navigator V8n [Re: Merkava_4] #4517553
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Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
10W30 is just soooooo thick!! I use that molasses in my 300ZX. On cool south Texas mornings I make sure to use a block heater to avoid startup wear.


Is that the Pennzoil Platinum 10W-30 that Gena sent you ? You haven't sent it to Blackstone yet ?


Man I mailed it off and the [censored] postal service lost it. It never arrived at Blackstone. That's the third time I've had mail get lost. Gena is truly AWESOME!! I now use Pennzoil Platinum in everything.


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W20

Re: Different requirements Taurus V6 and Navigator V8n [Re: aquariuscsm] #4517626
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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
Most the people on this board are scared to death of 10W-30.


10W30 is just soooooo thick!! I use that molasses in my 300ZX. On cool south Texas mornings I make sure to use a block heater to avoid startup wear.


your joking right? I am in Minnesota and while a block heater might be nice....I am not going to plug that in all winter. You car can survive starting in the cold....lol

Re: Different requirements Taurus V6 and Navigator V8n [Re: cadfaeltex] #4517646
09/16/17 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted By: cadfaeltex
Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Still under warranty?


Both just out of warranty.


How the heck is a 2014 Taurus with only 3,300 miles out of warranty? It would have come with a 3-year/36,000 mile basic warranty as well as a 5-year/60,000 mile powertrain warranty. I can see the basic warranty being over depending on the in-service date, but not the powertrain warranty. 2cents

PS: The Lincoln powertrain warranty should still be good as well. 4-year/50,000 mile basic, 6-year/70,000 mile powertrain.

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