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New SUV thoughts and opinions #4492725
08/19/17 10:42 AM
08/19/17 10:42 AM
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Austin, TX
MaximaGuy Offline OP
MaximaGuy  Offline OP
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Austin, TX
Folks:

In the market for a new luxury SUV and test drove the following

a) Tesla X : Amazing vehicle but total cost would be $100K. Love it.
b) Acura MDX: Nice vehicle but cannot see it to be a luxury SUV, it is no where close to being called a luxury vehicle
c) MB GLE350 : Great vehicle but many features bundled up that I don't ever will use for which there is a premium. Unreliable
c) BMW X5: This is what my spouse likes but it cannot ever make it to the list. There hasn't been an BMW owner that I have met who would buy another one. Extremely over engineered and unreliable and expensive to repair.
d) Lexus RX: Already have a Lexus and low on the list
e) Audi Q5/Q7: Great vehicle and top on the list. Quite reliable and wonderful features, second row seats are small for my liking.

I usually stay away from American vehicles as they all are unappealing to me.

Any thoughts..


2018 MB GLE350
2011 Lexus ES350
2006 Toyota Highlander 4WD
Re: New SUV thoughts and opinions [Re: MaximaGuy] #4492727
08/19/17 10:47 AM
08/19/17 10:47 AM
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North Carolina
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North Carolina
I notice Volvo is not on your list. The new XC90 will put the others out of your mind.


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: New SUV thoughts and opinions [Re: MaximaGuy] #4492732
08/19/17 10:53 AM
08/19/17 10:53 AM
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Posts: 258
Toronto, Canada
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Toronto, Canada
Originally Posted By: MaximaGuy
Folks:

In the market for a new luxury SUV and test drove the following

a) Tesla X : Amazing vehicle but total cost would be $100K. Love it.
b) Acura MDX: Nice vehicle but cannot see it to be a luxury SUV, it is no where close to being called a luxury vehicle
c) MB GLE350 : Great vehicle but many features bundled up that I don't ever will use for which there is a premium. Unreliable
c) BMW X5: This is what my spouse likes but it cannot ever make it to the list. There hasn't been an BMW owner that I have met who would buy another one. Extremely over engineered and unreliable and expensive to repair.
d) Lexus RX: Already have a Lexus and low on the list
e) Audi Q5/Q7: Great vehicle and top on the list. Quite reliable and wonderful features, second row seats are small for my liking.

I usually stay away from American vehicles as they all are unappealing to me.

Any thoughts..


My vote is for the Q7, X5, GLE350 in that order. I don't know how "unreliable" those last two are, expensive to fix i agree with that.


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Re: New SUV thoughts and opinions [Re: MaximaGuy] #4492734
08/19/17 10:55 AM
08/19/17 10:55 AM
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S California
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Doesn't Mazda make an SUV larger than their CX5? I thought I read an article where it compared favorably with similar sized SUV's that were much more expensive.

Re: New SUV thoughts and opinions [Re: MaximaGuy] #4492735
08/19/17 10:55 AM
08/19/17 10:55 AM
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il usa
merconvvv Offline
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il usa
Us news and world report car rankings has pretty good and accurate descriptions including performance and reliability.


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1994 Chrysler Concorde 3.3
1999 Ford Expedition 4.6 QSUD 10W30 NOACK 5.0
Re: New SUV thoughts and opinions [Re: MaximaGuy] #4492736
08/19/17 10:57 AM
08/19/17 10:57 AM
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il usa
merconvvv Offline
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A friend of mine bought a fully loaded v6 nissan murano that he is very happy with.


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1994 Chrysler Concorde 3.3
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Re: New SUV thoughts and opinions [Re: MaximaGuy] #4492746
08/19/17 11:21 AM
08/19/17 11:21 AM
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MTL, CANADA
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If you are in the market for a luxury suv, you should be in the market for expensive repairs. They go hand in hand, it comes with the territory. Personally, id opt for Mercedes over the others, it comes down to budget and what you are looking for. Not impressed with your current Lexus or are you just looking for a change?


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Re: New SUV thoughts and opinions [Re: MaximaGuy] #4492749
08/19/17 11:32 AM
08/19/17 11:32 AM
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MA
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I'm surprised you picked the GLE350 vs the Q7. The GLE use to be the ML350, it should be more like GLS450 vs Q7. But if you think the GLE has too much stuff, the GLS probably has even more. Heated and cooled cup holders are available. I'm sorta surprised you think the Q7 is more reliable, Audi never really had a good rep for that, but I know someone who has one and hasn't really complained about it. Then again, I also know someone with the GLS and he likes it. I got a Mercedes because of the 3, they seemed a bit better for reliability. BMW and Audi are worse. But if you're buying new, you'll have the bumper to bumper warranty for 4/50k on MB and there are extended MB warranties available. I found it strange that Audi doesn't really do extended warranties, you end up with 3rd party warranties.

Re: New SUV thoughts and opinions [Re: OneEyeJack] #4492753
08/19/17 11:39 AM
08/19/17 11:39 AM
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Posts: 7,743
New York
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New York
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
Doesn't Mazda make an SUV larger than their CX5? I thought I read an article where it compared favorably with similar sized SUV's that were much more expensive.


The new CX-9 with the 2.5T would be at the top of my list.....I know, I know, it's not a 'luxury' vehicle...but I'm more about functionality than 'goodies'.....The top of the line 'Signature' series starts at 44K and is as much luxury as I'll ever want or need...


'Journalism is Dead'
Re: New SUV thoughts and opinions [Re: MaximaGuy] #4492762
08/19/17 11:50 AM
08/19/17 11:50 AM
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The Midwest
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How often will you really need the third row seat and for who? You'd love the ride quality of the Q7 with the optional air suspension.


Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual
Re: New SUV thoughts and opinions [Re: Rolla07] #4492764
08/19/17 11:53 AM
08/19/17 11:53 AM
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Utah
CKN Online content
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Utah
Originally Posted By: Rolla07
If you are in the market for a luxury suv, you should be in the market for expensive repairs. They go hand in hand, it comes with the territory. Personally, id opt for Mercedes over the others, it comes down to budget and what you are looking for. Not impressed with your current Lexus or are you just looking for a change?



Exactly-and higher than average cost of just regular maintenance.

Re: New SUV thoughts and opinions [Re: MaximaGuy] #4492782
08/19/17 12:13 PM
08/19/17 12:13 PM
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TN
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TN
I know you said no American vehicles, but an Expedition is very nice. Failing that, Volvo XC90. I've had both as rental vehicles. If I wanted an SUV, they'd be #s 1 and 2 on the short list.


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2004 Saturn Ion: Magnatec 5w30/DW5436
2014 Polaris Ranger 570: Delo 5-40/Wix 51356
Re: New SUV thoughts and opinions [Re: MaximaGuy] #4492789
08/19/17 12:23 PM
08/19/17 12:23 PM
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Posts: 36,312
Great Lakes
Quattro Pete Offline
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Great Lakes
Originally Posted By: MaximaGuy
Folks:

In the market for a new luxury SUV and test drove the following

a) Tesla X : Amazing vehicle but total cost would be $100K. Love it.
b) Acura MDX: Nice vehicle but cannot see it to be a luxury SUV, it is no where close to being called a luxury vehicle
c) MB GLE350 : Great vehicle but many features bundled up that I don't ever will use for which there is a premium. Unreliable
c) BMW X5: This is what my spouse likes but it cannot ever make it to the list. There hasn't been an BMW owner that I have met who would buy another one. Extremely over engineered and unreliable and expensive to repair.
d) Lexus RX: Already have a Lexus and low on the list
e) Audi Q5/Q7: Great vehicle and top on the list. Quite reliable and wonderful features, second row seats are small for my liking.

I usually stay away from American vehicles as they all are unappealing to me.

Any thoughts..

Wife has had her Q5 for almost 3 years now. Overall, it's been great.

However, the new one is made in Mexico, and in first year of production, so I would be a little apprehensive for now.



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'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)
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Re: New SUV thoughts and opinions [Re: MaximaGuy] #4492810
08/19/17 12:57 PM
08/19/17 12:57 PM
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Kalifornia Kollective
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So why? Are you going off road? If you are, why beat a luxo barge. If not, there are a lot of cross-overs that might fit the bill ...


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: New SUV thoughts and opinions [Re: MaximaGuy] #4492851
08/19/17 02:03 PM
08/19/17 02:03 PM
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NY, USA, etc.
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I'd go with the Audi. Parents neighbors have the BMW and love it. If you can afford the car then you should be able to maintain it no problem, especially if you are a research and DIY type.

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