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#4491979 - 08/18/17 02:36 PM Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus
volk06 Offline


Registered: 10/04/10
Posts: 4856
Loc: Midwest
I currently have almost 9 months and 9.6K on my current fill of Edge EP 5w-20 with a Fram TG3614. Only down 1/4qt over this oci. I will be changing it out at 10K, next weekend probably. The focus has the 2.0L, 5sp, takes 5qts, warranty just expired.

Next OCI fill will be 1 year which will probably be right at 14-15K. (Pending my UOA results from current fill). Will see hot temps and then below zero temps for a few months.

Filter: FU3614, new 20K boxed one
Oil Choices are:
M1 AFE 0w-30, I have 5 or 6qts (Oldest) - my pick.
Edge EP 0w-20, I have 6qts (newest)
Edge EP 5w-30, I have 6qts (newest)
GC 0w-30, I have 6qts (middle age, saving for f150 ecoboost? don't think the focus warrants the use of these unicorn tears)

Have but wont run for 15K or 1 year
Mobil Super Syn 0w-20, I have 6qts (middle age)
Mobil Super Syn 5w-20, I have 5qts (middle age)
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#4491986 - 08/18/17 02:46 PM Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: volk06]
2015_PSD Offline


Registered: 09/26/10
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Loc: SE Texas
First in, first out--use the M1 AFE 0W-30 which can easily handle 15K.
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#4492037 - 08/18/17 03:49 PM Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: volk06]
Bud_One Offline


Registered: 04/19/14
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Loc: Spring,Texas
+1 for M1 AFE 0W-30
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#4492046 - 08/18/17 03:58 PM Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: volk06]
oil_film_movies Offline


Registered: 06/13/16
Posts: 2247
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: volk06
Next OCI fill will be 1 year which will probably be right at 14-15K.

Filter: FU3614, new 20K boxed one
Oil Choices are:
M1 AFE 0w-30, I have 5 or 6qts (Oldest) - my pick.
Edge EP 0w-20, I have 6qts (newest)
Edge EP 5w-30, I have 6qts (newest)
GC 0w-30, I have 6qts (middle age, saving for f150 ecoboost? don't think the focus warrants the use of these unicorn tears)


My choice would be Edge EP 0w-20 if you are ignoring the Ford IOLM and just going 1-year no matter what. Ford says not to exceed 1 year, which is probably good advice. With the EP you should have some extra margin taking it to 1-year and 15k miles.

So use the Castrol Edge 0w20 EP for the 15k interval, and then next year you might trade the car in, sell it, whatever. Your next car might take the xw30 weights better, especially if you get a turbo engine next year or so, very common engine these days.

Use the oversize Fram Ultra if the extra length won't be a problem, thats an XG3600 (Ultra) replacing the XG3614. The '3600 is longer. I've got one of the same size waiting to go on a Ford 2.0L shortly, and I hope it'll clear the 1.5" extra length!! We'll see. It should.

If you decide on the M1 0w30 AFE, I'd go by the IOLM exactly, no stretching, as neither Mobil nor Ford says to take it to 15k (1-year is fine, and up to 10k miles).

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#4492060 - 08/18/17 04:18 PM Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: volk06]
pbm Offline


Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 7487
Loc: New York
My 2014 Focus 2.0 takes only 4.5 quarts?

I would use the Edge 0W20.

Have you run an oversized oil filter in your Focus?
Have you ran 5w30 or 0w30 already?...If so, did it feel any different...sluggish?

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#4492062 - 08/18/17 04:22 PM Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: pbm]
oil_film_movies Offline


Registered: 06/13/16
Posts: 2247
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: pbm
My 2014 Focus 2.0 takes only 4.5 quarts??
My 2015 2.0L takes 4.5 quarts too. Mobil's website says the OP's 2012 Focus 2.0L takes 4.5 quarts. I saw that above, and just figured the the OP is an experienced oil guy and will check the dipstick after a change. Safe if you check the stick.

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#4492076 - 08/18/17 04:44 PM Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: volk06]
bioburner Offline


Registered: 09/19/16
Posts: 1418
Loc: Minnesota
When I get back to Texas in October my Transit will be getting a jug of Magnatec 5w20. No worry about cold weather though unless you consider 40's cold
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#4492092 - 08/18/17 05:01 PM Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: oil_film_movies]
volk06 Offline


Registered: 10/04/10
Posts: 4856
Loc: Midwest
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Originally Posted By: pbm
My 2014 Focus 2.0 takes only 4.5 quarts??
My 2015 2.0L takes 4.5 quarts too. Mobil's website says the OP's 2012 Focus 2.0L takes 4.5 quarts. I saw that above, and just figured the the OP is an experienced oil guy and will check the dipstick after a change. Safe if you check the stick.


This oil change takes 5 quarts because I know of no common oil manufacturer to bottle 1/2qt bottles. It takes (have to open) 5 quarts, that doesn't mean all 5 quarts get dumped in. I pour until the oil level hits max.

I see no need or benefit to use an oversized filter in this application.
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#4492100 - 08/18/17 05:09 PM Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: volk06]
car51 Online   content


Registered: 03/12/15
Posts: 9867
Loc: Southwest PA
Originally Posted By: volk06
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Originally Posted By: pbm
My 2014 Focus 2.0 takes only 4.5 quarts??
My 2015 2.0L takes 4.5 quarts too. Mobil's website says the OP's 2012 Focus 2.0L takes 4.5 quarts. I saw that above, and just figured the the OP is an experienced oil guy and will check the dipstick after a change. Safe if you check the stick.


This oil change takes 5 quarts because I know of no common oil manufacturer to bottle 1/2qt bottles. It takes (have to open) 5 quarts, that doesn't mean all 5 quarts get dumped in. I pour until the oil level hits max.

I see no need or benefit to use an oversized filter in this application.


The 3614 filter is fine and what I used on my 11' Focus


Edited by wwillson (08/19/17 08:06 PM)
Edit Reason: remove language

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#4492113 - 08/18/17 05:20 PM Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: car51]
oil_film_movies Offline


Registered: 06/13/16
Posts: 2247
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: car51
Yeah, don't listen to that dumb advice. smile
The 3614 filter is fine and what I used on my 11' Focus

The smaller the filter, the better, according to car51, king of dumb advice. crackmeup

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#4492116 - 08/18/17 05:23 PM Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: volk06]
tig1 Offline


Registered: 01/03/09
Posts: 13528
Loc: Illinois
I put 175K on a 2007 Focus with the 2.0 using M1 0-20AFE at 10K OCIs. Engine was performing great when totaled in June. I also use that oil in my 2007 Fusion and my 2017 Fusion.
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#4492169 - 08/18/17 06:19 PM Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: volk06]
fdcg27 Offline


Registered: 09/25/09
Posts: 15436
Loc: OH
For long drains, use an oil with recognized certs that allow for them.
Of the oils you've listed, you know which one that would be.
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#4492270 - 08/18/17 08:15 PM Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: oil_film_movies]
car51 Online   content


Registered: 03/12/15
Posts: 9867
Loc: Southwest PA
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Originally Posted By: car51
Yeah, don't listen to that dumb advice. smile
The 3614 filter is fine and what I used on my 11' Focus

The smaller the filter, the better, according to car51, king of dumb advice. crackmeup


Obviously, he doesn't need a long filter as it's NOT the CORRECT filter.


Edited by wwillson (08/19/17 08:06 PM)
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#4492286 - 08/18/17 08:30 PM Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: volk06]
bigj_16 Offline


Registered: 07/03/17
Posts: 1243
Loc: Douglas County, Colorado
Looks like some people on here are suffering from filter envy cool

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#4492308 - 08/18/17 09:07 PM Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: volk06]
BrocLuno Offline


Registered: 09/06/15
Posts: 5226
Loc: Kalifornia Kollective
More filter area is always a good thing. Especially on cold starts at 0*. Any oil is thick at that temp. So small filter area means the internal by pass opens until the oil is up toward OP temp. More area mean that it might pass enough cold oil to not open the by-pass, or it will close sooner ...
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