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Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus #4491979
08/18/17 02:36 PM
08/18/17 02:36 PM
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volk06 Offline OP
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I currently have almost 9 months and 9.6K on my current fill of Edge EP 5w-20 with a Fram TG3614. Only down 1/4qt over this oci. I will be changing it out at 10K, next weekend probably. The focus has the 2.0L, 5sp, takes 5qts, warranty just expired.

Next OCI fill will be 1 year which will probably be right at 14-15K. (Pending my UOA results from current fill). Will see hot temps and then below zero temps for a few months.

Filter: FU3614, new 20K boxed one
Oil Choices are:
M1 AFE 0w-30, I have 5 or 6qts (Oldest) - my pick.
Edge EP 0w-20, I have 6qts (newest)
Edge EP 5w-30, I have 6qts (newest)
GC 0w-30, I have 6qts (middle age, saving for f150 ecoboost? don't think the focus warrants the use of these unicorn tears)

Have but wont run for 15K or 1 year
Mobil Super Syn 0w-20, I have 6qts (middle age)
Mobil Super Syn 5w-20, I have 5qts (middle age)


2011 F-150 Ecoboost
2012 Focus S
2001 Taurus
Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: volk06] #4491986
08/18/17 02:46 PM
08/18/17 02:46 PM
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First in, first out--use the M1 AFE 0W-30 which can easily handle 15K.


2018 MB AMG GLC43 3.0L Coupe - Castrol 0W-40/Purflux
2018 MB C300 2.0L - M1 0W-40/OEM
2015 F-250 6.7L PS Diesel - Delo 15W-40/CQ Blue
2014 Explorer 3.5L Limited - M1 AFE 0W-20/FU
Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: volk06] #4492037
08/18/17 03:49 PM
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Spring,Texas
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+1 for M1 AFE 0W-30


16 Civic-QSUD 0W-20, XG7317
14 Civic-Idemitsu Zepro 0W-20, XG7317
05 Chevy 2500HD-QSUD 10W-30, XG3675
97 Accord Wagon-Havoline HM 10W-30, PH3593A
Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: volk06] #4492046
08/18/17 03:58 PM
08/18/17 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: volk06
Next OCI fill will be 1 year which will probably be right at 14-15K.

Filter: FU3614, new 20K boxed one
Oil Choices are:
M1 AFE 0w-30, I have 5 or 6qts (Oldest) - my pick.
Edge EP 0w-20, I have 6qts (newest)
Edge EP 5w-30, I have 6qts (newest)
GC 0w-30, I have 6qts (middle age, saving for f150 ecoboost? don't think the focus warrants the use of these unicorn tears)


My choice would be Edge EP 0w-20 if you are ignoring the Ford IOLM and just going 1-year no matter what. Ford says not to exceed 1 year, which is probably good advice. With the EP you should have some extra margin taking it to 1-year and 15k miles.

So use the Castrol Edge 0w20 EP for the 15k interval, and then next year you might trade the car in, sell it, whatever. Your next car might take the xw30 weights better, especially if you get a turbo engine next year or so, very common engine these days.

Use the oversize Fram Ultra if the extra length won't be a problem, thats an XG3600 (Ultra) replacing the XG3614. The '3600 is longer. I've got one of the same size waiting to go on a Ford 2.0L shortly, and I hope it'll clear the 1.5" extra length!! We'll see. It should.

If you decide on the M1 0w30 AFE, I'd go by the IOLM exactly, no stretching, as neither Mobil nor Ford says to take it to 15k (1-year is fine, and up to 10k miles).

Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: volk06] #4492060
08/18/17 04:18 PM
08/18/17 04:18 PM
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My 2014 Focus 2.0 takes only 4.5 quarts?

I would use the Edge 0W20.

Have you run an oversized oil filter in your Focus?
Have you ran 5w30 or 0w30 already?...If so, did it feel any different...sluggish?


'Journalism is Dead'
Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: pbm] #4492062
08/18/17 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: pbm
My 2014 Focus 2.0 takes only 4.5 quarts??
My 2015 2.0L takes 4.5 quarts too. Mobil's website says the OP's 2012 Focus 2.0L takes 4.5 quarts. I saw that above, and just figured the the OP is an experienced oil guy and will check the dipstick after a change. Safe if you check the stick.

Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: volk06] #4492076
08/18/17 04:44 PM
08/18/17 04:44 PM
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Minnesota
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When I get back to Texas in October my Transit will be getting a jug of Magnatec 5w20. No worry about cold weather though unless you consider 40's cold



97 Ford E350 D,99 F350 dually D
13 Scion Xb
12 Ford Transit Connect
06 Nissan Xterra
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Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: oil_film_movies] #4492092
08/18/17 05:01 PM
08/18/17 05:01 PM
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Midwest
volk06 Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Originally Posted By: pbm
My 2014 Focus 2.0 takes only 4.5 quarts??
My 2015 2.0L takes 4.5 quarts too. Mobil's website says the OP's 2012 Focus 2.0L takes 4.5 quarts. I saw that above, and just figured the the OP is an experienced oil guy and will check the dipstick after a change. Safe if you check the stick.


This oil change takes 5 quarts because I know of no common oil manufacturer to bottle 1/2qt bottles. It takes (have to open) 5 quarts, that doesn't mean all 5 quarts get dumped in. I pour until the oil level hits max.

I see no need or benefit to use an oversized filter in this application.


2011 F-150 Ecoboost
2012 Focus S
2001 Taurus
Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: volk06] #4492100
08/18/17 05:09 PM
08/18/17 05:09 PM
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53' Stude Offline
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Originally Posted By: volk06
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Originally Posted By: pbm
My 2014 Focus 2.0 takes only 4.5 quarts??
My 2015 2.0L takes 4.5 quarts too. Mobil's website says the OP's 2012 Focus 2.0L takes 4.5 quarts. I saw that above, and just figured the the OP is an experienced oil guy and will check the dipstick after a change. Safe if you check the stick.


This oil change takes 5 quarts because I know of no common oil manufacturer to bottle 1/2qt bottles. It takes (have to open) 5 quarts, that doesn't mean all 5 quarts get dumped in. I pour until the oil level hits max.

I see no need or benefit to use an oversized filter in this application.


The 3614 filter is fine and what I used on my 11' Focus

Last edited by wwillson; 08/19/17 08:06 PM. Reason: remove language
Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: 53' Stude] #4492113
08/18/17 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted By: car51
Yeah, don't listen to that dumb advice. smile
The 3614 filter is fine and what I used on my 11' Focus

The smaller the filter, the better, according to car51, king of dumb advice. crackmeup

Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: volk06] #4492116
08/18/17 05:23 PM
08/18/17 05:23 PM
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Illinois
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I put 175K on a 2007 Focus with the 2.0 using M1 0-20AFE at 10K OCIs. Engine was performing great when totaled in June. I also use that oil in my 2007 Fusion and my 2017 Fusion.


2007 Ford Fusion 233,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 58K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and Valvoline LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: volk06] #4492169
08/18/17 06:19 PM
08/18/17 06:19 PM
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For long drains, use an oil with recognized certs that allow for them.
Of the oils you've listed, you know which one that would be.


18 Accord Hybrid FF
17 Forester 18K VME 0W-20
12 Accord LX 96K SSO 0W-20
09 Forester 95K M1HM 10W-30
01 Focus ZX3 118K PP 5W-20
96 Accord LX 104K T5 10W-30
95 318i
Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: oil_film_movies] #4492270
08/18/17 08:15 PM
08/18/17 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Originally Posted By: car51
Yeah, don't listen to that dumb advice. smile
The 3614 filter is fine and what I used on my 11' Focus

The smaller the filter, the better, according to car51, king of dumb advice. crackmeup


Obviously, he doesn't need a long filter as it's NOT the CORRECT filter.

Last edited by wwillson; 08/19/17 08:06 PM. Reason: remove language
Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: volk06] #4492286
08/18/17 08:30 PM
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Looks like some people on here are suffering from filter envy cool

Re: Pick my next Oil - 2012 Focus [Re: volk06] #4492308
08/18/17 09:07 PM
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More filter area is always a good thing. Especially on cold starts at 0*. Any oil is thick at that temp. So small filter area means the internal by pass opens until the oil is up toward OP temp. More area mean that it might pass enough cold oil to not open the by-pass, or it will close sooner ...


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
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