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Any reason not to use an Ultra? #4484634
08/10/17 11:04 AM
08/10/17 11:04 AM
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Minnesota
JoelB Offline OP
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If i buy the 6 pack of Fram Ultra's (XG6607) on Ebay they are basically the same price as my OEM nissan filters I'm using now. Is there any reason not to take that deal? I still wont exceed a 5k oci as I'm under warranty.

Also, have people had decent luck buying these 6 packs on ebay? do they ever come damaged?


Mine: 2018 Chevy spark (White) 1.4 Non-turbo
Mobil 1 0w20 AFE
ACDelco UPF64R

Wife's: 2018 Chevy spark (Blue) 1.4 Non-turbo
Mobil 1 0w20 AFE
ACDelco UPF64R
Re: Any reason not to use an Ultra? [Re: JoelB] #4484639
08/10/17 11:08 AM
08/10/17 11:08 AM
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Olathe, KS
CARJ Offline
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Why not buy a 6 pack of Nissan filters instead?


2004 Toyota 4Runner | 180k | PYB 5w-30, PH3614
2012 VW Passat | 85k | PPHM/Redline 5w-30, XG9911
Re: Any reason not to use an Ultra? [Re: JoelB] #4484649
08/10/17 11:17 AM
08/10/17 11:17 AM
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I have read of a few people getting dented filters, but contacting the sellers they have all said they either refunded or replaced the bad ones.

As for should you, well, you are using a Premium filter for 1/4 of it's rated life, defeating part of the reason for using it. use it for at least 2 oil changes if you are going to change the oil at 5000 miles.
If you are that worried about warranty and are going to change the filter with the oil, just stick with OEM.

What is the recommended OCI for the vehicle per Nissan? 5000 miles is easy to do with conventional oil and a budget filter.
Mobil 1 and an Ultra is good for at least 10,000 miles for most driving conditions. Seems to be a wast of money to me.


2012 xB: QSUD 0w-20/CQ Blue/5k
2010 Santa Fe: PP 0w-20/P1/8k
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Re: Any reason not to use an Ultra? [Re: JoelB] #4484672
08/10/17 11:36 AM
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Bud Offline
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If you will toss a ultra after 5000 miles you are wasting a good filter.


2016 Honda Pilot EX-L with NAVI.....Mobil 1 0w20 AFE and Honda OEM Filter
Re: Any reason not to use an Ultra? [Re: blupupher] #4484686
08/10/17 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted By: blupupher
I have read of a few people getting dented filters, but contacting the sellers they have all said they either refunded or replaced the bad ones.

As for should you, well, you are using a Premium filter for 1/4 of it's rated life, defeating part of the reason for using it. use it for at least 2 oil changes if you are going to change the oil at 5000 miles.
If you are that worried about warranty and are going to change the filter with the oil, just stick with OEM.

What is the recommended OCI for the vehicle per Nissan? 5000 miles is easy to do with conventional oil and a budget filter.
Mobil 1 and an Ultra is good for at least 10,000 miles for most driving conditions. Seems to be a wast of money to me.


I had no problem with an EBAY seller replacing a dented filter from a 6 pack deal. I'd buy again from him w/o hesitation.


God Bless Our Troops

Re: Any reason not to use an Ultra? [Re: JoelB] #4484688
08/10/17 11:53 AM
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I bought a 6 pack of fram ultras from ebay for my nissan truck. I will probably only use them for 5k miles also since thats the change interval and I'm under warranty. The kicker is that it breaks down to about $5 a filter. It might be a bit of a waste, but at $5 a filter why not?


2016 Nissan Frontier Pro4x
2017 VW GTI sport
1995 Mustang GTS
Re: Any reason not to use an Ultra? [Re: Bud] #4484694
08/10/17 11:57 AM
08/10/17 11:57 AM
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Colorado
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Originally Posted By: Bud
If you will toss a ultra after 5000 miles you are wasting a good filter.


Correct!

Sounds like a great deal on a filter that easily goes 15k miles.


Thick vs Thin test: 15k / 43k miles complete
Re: Any reason not to use an Ultra? [Re: JoelB] #4484699
08/10/17 12:00 PM
08/10/17 12:00 PM
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As others said - waste of a filter, at that point you should just order Denso filters for $3.30 ea all day long.

My '01 Maxima has 7500 mile OCIs per spec with UOAs coming back with plenty of life left, even on dino. Why are the newer engines requiring shorter OCIs now?

5k OCI is easily doable with an Orange Can and Supertech dino with no ill effects.


2013 Toyota Tundra CM 5.7L TRD (M1 0w20/PUP0w40euro, WIX/CQ filter)
2010 Mercedes E550 4Matic (PP 0W40 Euro, Mann)
Re: Any reason not to use an Ultra? [Re: JoelB] #4484700
08/10/17 12:02 PM
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*WHO* says you MUST change your oil filter?

What EXACTLY does your warranty say?


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Any reason not to use an Ultra? [Re: JoelB] #4484701
08/10/17 12:02 PM
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I'd just change the oil every 5k miles and keep the filter on for 2 or even 3 oil changes.

That's what I do on my Accord. I've been putting between 16-20k miles on Napa Platinum's between 2 OCI's.

Right now I'm running my first MicroGreen. It's gonna do the same interval.


2018 Chevy Silverado 3500HD 6.0L Gas: RLI 10w30
2010 Accord-LX K24: MaxLife 5w30 + Torco MPZ
2014 CR-V LX K24: M1 0w30
Re: Any reason not to use an Ultra? [Re: homeyclaus] #4484702
08/10/17 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: homeyclaus

5k OCI is easily doable with an Orange Can and Supertech dino with no ill effects.


Or a supertech (wix) filter.

Why waste good money early on?

Save the good oil and filters for until after the warranty is over, IMHO....


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Any reason not to use an Ultra? [Re: JoelB] #4484711
08/10/17 12:12 PM
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If a new car suggested 5K oil changes for a warranty, I would buy some other car...
The 1980's called.................

Re: Any reason not to use an Ultra? [Re: JoelB] #4484714
08/10/17 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: JoelB
If i buy the 6 pack of Fram Ultra's (XG6607) on Ebay they are basically the same price as my OEM nissan filters I'm using now. Is there any reason not to take that deal? I still wont exceed a 5k oci as I'm under warranty.

Also, have people had decent luck buying these 6 packs on ebay? do they ever come damaged?
I have bought two 6-packs, on each one I had a filter with a dented dome, the eBay reseller credited them no questions asked. No ancient "Xtended Guard" stock, either. They came out to around $4.50 each on the ones I bought (XG2s & XG14476s). If I HAD to change the filter every 5K due to warranty, I would just use an el cheapo like ST, RK, Microguard, etc.

Last edited by bullwinkle; 08/10/17 12:16 PM.

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Re: Any reason not to use an Ultra? [Re: JoelB] #4484814
08/10/17 01:25 PM
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Get a Mobil 1 EP filter


Always Mobil 1
2014 1.6L Nissan Versa Sedan, 5 spd, 5k OCI.
2011 3.5L Chevrolet Impala, Automatic, 5k OCI.
Re: Any reason not to use an Ultra? [Re: JoelB] #4484929
08/10/17 04:14 PM
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Use the longer XG7317 if it fits smile

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