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Shell T5 10w-30 #4474261
07/29/17 10:14 PM
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Is it ok to use this diesel rated oil in my Kohler 22hp 7000 series? I am planning to use this semi/synthetic after the 5 hr break in.


'14 Toyota Venza 3.5L 70K mi
TGMO 0W-20/Toyota filter (winter)
PP 0W-20/Fram Ultra filter(spring/summer)


Re: Shell T5 10w-30 [Re: Patrick0525] #4474263
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Absolutely no worries.


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Re: Shell T5 10w-30 [Re: Patrick0525] #4474369
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Kohler uses break-in oil and recommends an intitial 5hr oil change. They suggests conventional oil for the next 50hrs before switching if desired to 100% synthetic. T5 is semi-synthetic. Any break-in problems using T5 for the 50hrs? Shell has a $5 rebate on a 5qt jug which Walmart sells for $18.

I don't want to spend $3 per qt when I can get $13 for a jug.


'14 Toyota Venza 3.5L 70K mi
TGMO 0W-20/Toyota filter (winter)
PP 0W-20/Fram Ultra filter(spring/summer)


Re: Shell T5 10w-30 [Re: Patrick0525] #4474414
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Used full syn on my 7000 series after about 5 hr no problems no consumption issue great running engine. Currently running Amsoil ASE with OEM will be running a UOA at year end and doing yearly changes should be near 50hr on oil.

Re: Shell T5 10w-30 [Re: Patrick0525] #4474422
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Correction: 4qt jug and $16.47 with Walmart pickup.


'14 Toyota Venza 3.5L 70K mi
TGMO 0W-20/Toyota filter (winter)
PP 0W-20/Fram Ultra filter(spring/summer)


Re: Shell T5 10w-30 [Re: Patrick0525] #4474439
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It's perfectly fine.

Originally Posted By: Patrick0525

I don't want to spend $3 per qt when I can get $13 for a jug.


No need for synthetic, Honestly. I'm not "Bee Essen" you either.

Any regular 15W-40 will keep that engine happy for a very long time. A very long time.


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Re: Shell T5 10w-30 [Re: Patrick0525] #4474458
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Think that is a good choice - maybe when you have a couple seasons on the machine a 15w40 - that is popular with OPE commercial users ... I just stay 5w30 synthetic on things with a pull starter ... (tiny volume in those slingers) ...


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Re: Shell T5 10w-30 [Re: Patrick0525] #4474476
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I'm usually an SAE 30 guy in OPE, but I use the 10W30 T5 in my Predator log splitter engine (which gets used a bit in cold weather-frozen logs seem to split easier), it's been good so far.


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Re: Shell T5 10w-30 [Re: Patrick0525] #4474760
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Originally Posted By: Patrick0525
They suggests conventional oil for the next 50hrs before switching if desired to 100% synthetic.


Why not use Kohler 10w30 for that 50 hours then look for deals on synthetic. If they suggest using a conventional for the first 50 hours then that's what I would do.

This is from the TSC site.
Providing the full protection of an SAE-30 oil at operating temperatures, Kohler 10W-30 Premium Oil is extremely resistant to viscosity shearing and stays in grade through its normal service life. This multi-viscosity oil pumps easily to provide instant lubrication to overhead valve components during start-up.

An excellent "fleet" oil to use in every piece of equipment
Exceeds API service rating SJ
Also exceeds MIL-2104E & MIL-46152E, Mack E/O, K/2 Caterpillar TO-2, Cummins NTC 3000 & Allison C-4
Designed for use in all Kohler Command, Command PRO, CS, Courage, Aegis and Triad/OHC engines


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Re: Shell T5 10w-30 [Re: Patrick0525] #4475397
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I've been using the Rotella T5 10w30 in the Kohler 25hp V-Twin command on the John Deere for about 5 years now. It has almost 750 hours on it and runs great.


2000 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L (181k) - Pennzoil 10w30, Napa Gold 1516, Magnefine trans filter
2009 BMW 328i (36k) - Castrol Edge Euro 0w40, MANN HU816X
Re: Shell T5 10w-30 [Re: jeepman3071] #4475829
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I am going place my Shell HDEO oil order tonite and start using it after draining the 5 hr break-in oil.

Last edited by Patrick0525; 07/31/17 05:10 PM. Reason: Update

'14 Toyota Venza 3.5L 70K mi
TGMO 0W-20/Toyota filter (winter)
PP 0W-20/Fram Ultra filter(spring/summer)


Re: Shell T5 10w-30 [Re: Patrick0525] #4476216
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Pair that with a Fram 3614 or 3600 filter (if you have the room), and your good to go...

The OEM filter is 2 inches long, the 3614 is 3 and 1/2, and the 3600 just under 5 inches...
The 3614 holds 4 more ounces of oil, the 3600 holds 8...


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Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0W-40, Purolator Synthetic PSL 14610, 45 mpg...
185/55R15 General HP tires, "H" speed rated, 44 psi (300 kpa)
Re: Shell T5 10w-30 [Re: Patrick0525] #4486785
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Look on the bottle, if im not mistaken, its a dual rated syn blend, with SN rating. Plenty safe, and spec'd for gas engines also.

Re: Shell T5 10w-30 [Re: Patrick0525] #4486845
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I wouldnt pay 4$+ per quart for any conventional.


2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk 2.0T
Re: Shell T5 10w-30 [Re: Patrick0525] #4486984
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I use and recommend HDEO for all my small engines. HDEO almost always has a lower volatility rate and much more additives to protect the engine compared to a PCMO. I use Delo 10w-30 myself but Rotella HDEO is good too.


18 Honda CR-V - Mobil-1 AFE 0w-20
17 Ram 1500 SLT - Napa Synthetic 5w-20
14 Yamaha Super Tenere - Mobil Delvac 15w-40
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