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Does fuel injector cleaner really do anything #4449679
07/04/17 05:53 PM
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ram_man Offline OP
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I see people all the time claiming great things with fuel treatments insert brand of choice. Do they really do anything? If so what's a brand that's not just [censored] advertising but is actually beneficial?


2014 dodge dart GT
1995 Dodge ram 1500


Re: Does fuel injector cleaner really do anything [Re: ram_man] #4449701
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I'm grateful to work @ an auto parts store where i get to hear opinions on this stuff daily...

Many many guys add the run of the mill cleaner's to their gas thank when its1/4 or 1/2. They make these jokes about them being (better) when you add a lot of it.

Only the handful of people who grab the oily stuff like Lucas upper cylinder cleaner/tcw3/mmo say it works [email protected] the recommended doses.

This one guy has used 1/2 oz of mmo per gallon of gas in his 77 460 boat motor and his 454 work truck motor. He claims neither motor has been apart.


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Re: Does fuel injector cleaner really do anything [Re: ram_man] #4449703
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Waste of money imo. Injectors are self-cleaning. Just use top tier fuel from a high volume station and you're good to go.


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1998 Nissan Frontier XE 2.4L, Castrol GTX HM 5W-30, M1 filter
Re: Does fuel injector cleaner really do anything [Re: ram_man] #4449704
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I have many stories of cars i've fixed with Techron. Here I import the Techron super concentrate in drums and prepare to their recommendations. My Grand Cherokee starts bogging down on acceleration by about 2500 miles. One bottle and a day or two and it flies again.

Re: Does fuel injector cleaner really do anything [Re: ram_man] #4449707
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I have had several cars that injector cleaner fixed.


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Re: Does fuel injector cleaner really do anything [Re: Starman2112] #4449710
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Originally Posted By: Starman2112
Waste of money imo. Injectors are self-cleaning. Just use top tier fuel from a high volume station and you're good to go.


Do you see the irony in this statement with regard to the difference between Top Tier fuel, run-of-the-mill fuel and fuel additives?


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Re: Does fuel injector cleaner really do anything [Re: Starman2112] #4449714
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Originally Posted By: Starman2112
Waste of money imo. Injectors are self-cleaning. Just use top tier fuel from a high volume station and you're good to go.


Nothing could be further from the truth.


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Re: Does fuel injector cleaner really do anything [Re: Trav] #4449722
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Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: Starman2112
Waste of money imo. Injectors are self-cleaning. Just use top tier fuel from a high volume station and you're good to go.


Nothing could be further from the truth.


Read this from a man who's owned his own shop since 1974 and studied quality management under W. Edwards Deming. I'll take his advice thank you.

http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/165

Last edited by Starman2112; 07/04/17 06:51 PM.

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Re: Does fuel injector cleaner really do anything [Re: ram_man] #4449723
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Here's another for good measure:

http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/152

But by all means keep buying that snake oil...

Last edited by Starman2112; 07/04/17 06:43 PM.

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Re: Does fuel injector cleaner really do anything [Re: ram_man] #4449731
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I run RaceTrac gas and a bottle of Techron once a year.

Re: Does fuel injector cleaner really do anything [Re: ram_man] #4449747
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When i revived an old work truck that sat for 8 years with gas in the tanks. I added race gas and tcw3 to the old gas. once the truck was on the street i started adding less and less tcw3.

I really feel high octane does more then additives.

Gas motors will drink 50:1 while free reving but i don't know if id wanna make a 3 hour trip on full tank of 50:1


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Re: Does fuel injector cleaner really do anything [Re: ram_man] #4449758
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Try any cleaner with a healthy dose of PEA and see what you think.
They do indeed work.


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Re: Does fuel injector cleaner really do anything [Re: Starman2112] #4449779
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Originally Posted By: Starman2112
Here's another for good measure:

http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/152

But by all means keep buying that snake oil...


Two links to the same site, for good measure?

Yeah, OK. Quote the same source five times, and it's still just one source.

But that same site recommends top tier for the (and this is important) cleaners in the fuel.

Now, the guy that rebuilds injectors for a living says proper cleaners work, and your linked site says use gasoline with proper additives (which are, uh, cleaners) so, I'm thinking that proper cleaners work...and your site says to avoid the cheap junk cleaners at the auto parts stores.

So, use good gas. Got it. But it's to keep things clean...and I've seen the guy that rebuilds injectors for a living say that good cleaners (PEA) work.

So, thanks for the links, they support what Trav says.

Last edited by Astro14; 07/04/17 07:31 PM.

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Re: Does fuel injector cleaner really do anything [Re: ram_man] #4449780
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Seafoam is the only one I've personally seen legitimate results from. However, it's also the one I've used in the most different circumstances - I've used MMO, Lucas, and Amsoil PI a handful of times, but all in my Cruze that really doesn't need it for a specific issue in the first place but rather for maintenance.


I like Chevy and Valvoline.

'13 Cruze, 1.4T, 113K
'85 GMC C3500, 454, 130K
'82 Mercedes 300CD, OM617 turbo, 169K
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Re: Does fuel injector cleaner really do anything [Re: ram_man] #4449802
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Which cleaners have PEA in sufficient quantities?

Thanks


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