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#4428872 - 06/11/17 08:17 PM Toro TXP 159cc OHV - oil recommendations?
jbedford Offline


Registered: 03/09/07
Posts: 12
Loc: Stouffville, Canada
Hello,

I just purchased a Toro Super Recycler with the 7.25 ft-lb Gross Torque Toro TXP 159cc OHV with AutoChoke.

Although the shop I bought it from said to change the oil at the end of the season, I though I would be safe and change the oil after the 5 hour break in period the manual recommends. I spent a lot of money on this mower and want it to last.

The manual calls for 0.5L of SAE 30 or SAE 10W-30 detergent oil.

My cars all run synthetic oil... question is should I also run synthetic in my push mower?

What does everyone recommend for lawn mower oil?

Thanks!


Edited by jbedford (06/11/17 08:18 PM)

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#4428875 - 06/11/17 08:22 PM Re: Toro TXP 159cc OHV - oil recommendations? [Re: jbedford]
spasm3 Offline


Registered: 05/30/10
Posts: 8665
Loc: North Carolina
I just bought a lawn boy with a kohler 6.5. After about 2 hours it will get amsoil hdd 5w30.
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#4428877 - 06/11/17 08:26 PM Re: Toro TXP 159cc OHV - oil recommendations? [Re: jbedford]
Bud_One Offline


Registered: 04/19/14
Posts: 1832
Loc: Spring,Texas
Any HDEO or Synthetic 10W30 would be more than adequate .
Currently running HDEO 15W40/10W30 in my OPE push and riding mowers.






Edited by Bud_One (06/11/17 08:30 PM)
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#4428890 - 06/11/17 08:51 PM Re: Toro TXP 159cc OHV - oil recommendations? [Re: spasm3]
jbedford Offline


Registered: 03/09/07
Posts: 12
Loc: Stouffville, Canada
Hi Spasm3,

I looked up Amsoil HDD and it indicates that it is Synthetic Heavy-Duty Diesel Oil. My engine is gasoline.

Will it hurt the mower to run 5W-30 when it calls for 10E-30?

I poked around the Amsoil site and they make a 10W-30 Synthetic Small Engine Oil.

http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/mo...all-engine-oil/

Is this the stuff I should look for?

Thanks!


Edited by jbedford (06/11/17 08:52 PM)

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#4428904 - 06/11/17 09:06 PM Re: Toro TXP 159cc OHV - oil recommendations? [Re: jbedford]
spasm3 Offline


Registered: 05/30/10
Posts: 8665
Loc: North Carolina
I like it for the zinc. I also like the high TBN. If it will hold up in turbo diesels, it should hold up in my push mower. grin2

This is from the amsoil site;

"Series 3000 5W-30 Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel Oil is recommended for diesel engines, including those that are turbocharged, gasoline engines and other applications that require any of the following specifications:

API CI-4+, CI-4, CH-4, CF-2, CF, SL, SJ
ACEA A3/B3, E2, E3, E5, E7
Global DHD-1
JASO DH-1
Mack EO-M, EO-N
DDC 93K214
Caterpillar ECF-1-a, ECF-2
Cummins CES 20076, 20077, 20078
Volvo VDS-2, VDS-3 MB 228.1, 228.3, 229.1
MAN 271/3275
MTU Type II "


Typical Technical Properties
AMSOIL Series 3000 5W-30 Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel Oil (HDD)
Kinematic Viscosity @ 100 ̊C, cSt (ASTM D445)
.................................................................
11.7
Kinematic V
iscosity @ 40 ̊C, cSt (ASTM D445)
..................................................................
70.1
V
iscosity Index (ASTM D2270)
...............................................................................
163
Cold Crank Simulator Appar
ent Viscosity @ -30 ̊C, cP (ASTM D5293)
................................................
5286
Pour Point, ̊C ( ̊F) (ASTM D97)
...........................................................................
-47 (-53)
Flash Point, ̊C ( ̊F) (ASTM D92)
.........................................................................
228 (442)
Fir
e Point, ̊C ( ̊F) (ASTM D92)
...........................................................................
238 (460)
NOACK V
olatility (ASTM D5800) % weight loss
...................................................................
7.5
High-T
emperature/High-Shear Viscosity, cP (ASTM D5481)
.........................................................
3.5
Four
-Ball Wear Test (ASTM D4172) Scar, mm
...................................................................
0.47
T
otal Base Number
........................................................................................
12.1


Edited by spasm3 (06/11/17 09:10 PM)
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#4428913 - 06/11/17 09:22 PM Re: Toro TXP 159cc OHV - oil recommendations? [Re: spasm3]
jbedford Offline


Registered: 03/09/07
Posts: 12
Loc: Stouffville, Canada
Wow! That's a lot of technical jargon... Thanks! I will move to 5W-30 synthetic oil when I change my oil. Thank you!

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#4428914 - 06/11/17 09:24 PM Re: Toro TXP 159cc OHV - oil recommendations? [Re: jbedford]
spasm3 Offline


Registered: 05/30/10
Posts: 8665
Loc: North Carolina
Originally Posted By: jbedford
Wow! That's a lot of technical jargon... Thanks! I will move to 5W-30 synthetic oil when I change my oil. Thank you!


I'm sure the small engine oil would work fine too. What i am using is probably total overkill for a pushmower.
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#4428927 - 06/11/17 09:38 PM Re: Toro TXP 159cc OHV - oil recommendations? [Re: spasm3]
jbedford Offline


Registered: 03/09/07
Posts: 12
Loc: Stouffville, Canada
Originally Posted By: spasm3
I'm sure the small engine oil would work fine too. What i am using is probably total overkill for a pushmower.


Overkill, maybe... but for a few extra bucks, well worth it in my mind.

I appreciate the help! Thanks!

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#4428936 - 06/11/17 09:55 PM Re: Toro TXP 159cc OHV - oil recommendations? [Re: Bud_One]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6178
Loc: Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: Bud_One
Any HDEO or Synthetic 10W30 would be more than adequate .
Currently running HDEO 15W40


Same here.

Rotella 15W-40 or Super Tech 15w-40 in all OPE.
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#4428958 - 06/11/17 10:18 PM Re: Toro TXP 159cc OHV - oil recommendations? [Re: jbedford]
NH73 Offline


Registered: 10/31/14
Posts: 699
Loc: Pa, USA
My cars all run synthetic oil... question is should I also run synthetic in my push mower?
Yes, you can. It will hold well to the heat. 5w30 synthetic is as good as 10w30 conventional, if not better.
What does everyone recommend for lawn mower oil?
For myself, I been using 10w30 PYB in all my unfiltered engines. QSUD 5w30 is in my snowblower. M1EP 5w30 in my zero turn. The zero turn will get M1TDT 5w40 in its next oil change, that I got for a good deal.
Thanks!


Edited by NH73 (06/11/17 10:19 PM)
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#4429010 - 06/12/17 12:08 AM Re: Toro TXP 159cc OHV - oil recommendations? [Re: jbedford]
bubbatime Offline


Registered: 03/18/08
Posts: 5628
Loc: South Florida
If you run a synthetic 5W30 or 10W30 oil in your car already, then just run what you use in your car.

If your car calls for a 20 weight, and you have to go out and buy oil for your mower, then ANY synthetic 10W30 would be a good choice.

Heavy duty engine oil 10W30 (Rotella, Delo, etc) would also be a good choice. Most of these are dual rated for use in diesel and gasoline engines.
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#4429054 - 06/12/17 04:11 AM Re: Toro TXP 159cc OHV - oil recommendations? [Re: jbedford]
mattwithcats Offline


Registered: 06/13/13
Posts: 1662
Loc: Virginia
Rotella T5 semi synthetic 10W-30,
or when it becomes available, T6 full synthetic in 10W-30.

Just bagged 20 quarts for a dollar fifty, after rebates and coupons...
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#4429213 - 06/12/17 09:43 AM Re: Toro TXP 159cc OHV - oil recommendations? [Re: jbedford]
CT8 Offline


Registered: 10/09/14
Posts: 11020
Loc: Idaho
The mower will not care what oil is run in it just so it meets the specs. Use what you run in the car if it is the proper viscosity. 5W-30 will work fine just keep an eye on the oil level.
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#4429254 - 06/12/17 10:17 AM Re: Toro TXP 159cc OHV - oil recommendations? [Re: jbedford]
zuluplus30 Offline


Registered: 11/23/13
Posts: 358
Loc: Fly-over country
Syn 5w/10w-30 or straight SAE30.

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#4450656 - 07/05/17 06:20 PM Re: Toro TXP 159cc OHV - oil recommendations? [Re: jbedford]
scudpilot Offline


Registered: 10/12/08
Posts: 227
Loc: Pittsburgh,Pa.
Bought that exact mower, super recycler and have used it twice. After the 5th cut I'm going to run the Amsoil 10w30 small engine oil and change it every season.. had a JD JX 75 for 20 years that I just retired and that's what it got once Amsoil introduced it. Before that Amsoil 10w30 synthetic.
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